ESEE AH-1 Flies Again

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This is an update to my previous post http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=805074

Finally had some nice weather and was able to get outside with my survival bow.
I started off by removing some more material from the staves to get a little more flex out of the bow.

Something I rarely see on these so called "survival" threads is someone using a knife as a drawknife,
which has far more legitimate survival uses, in my opinion, than batoning.

Like this ?

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This is pretty much the only method used for making this bow and arrow.
I got everything to length with a folding saw.
Cutting any of the materials by batoning would likely result in a bow stave in the face later on.

Moving on, as I said in the last post, I was going to drop an arrow fletching field kit with some arrowheads into my kit.
This is pretty compact, fits perfect in a survival tin.

Thanks for the arrowheads Jeff!

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I started with a whole new arrow this time. It was mostly straight when I stripped the bark off of it but had a small curve in it.
I heated it up over the fire and flexed it straight. This worked real well.
This also hardens the arrow slightly, and draws the moisture/sap to the surface.

Per some advice recieved in the original thread I cut a slit in the arrowhead end of the arrow and attached it with some lighter cordage.
Went with 50# fish line. Sorry Mike, all out of dental floss at the moment.

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I cut a shallow knock in the arrow and wrapped the end with some fish line to help prevent it from splitting.
I had to come back later and make this knock a little deaper.

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I then attached some fletching that were trimmed down a bit.
I used some fletching glue that is included in my kit.

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Once I was done with this I also applied some glue to all the cordage on the arrow, to help keep it all together.
From what I understand pine pitch can work well for this also.

I made a rest for the bow by wrapping parachute cord arround the handhold on the bow with a small stick on the side.

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Time to fire...

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Well I lost the yellow fletching on the first shot.
I jumped the gun a bit, need more time to cure.
I continued on with a single fletch.

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Plenty of penatration this time arround.

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I shot the bow about 25 times from ranges between 20 - 30 feet.

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The arrow held up much better than last time. I could have kept on shooting it in the condition it was in.

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My hand grip / rest was starting to come apart, will have to figure out something better for this.

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To remove the arrow from the target I simply pushed through or pulled it straight back out. I was fairly impressed with the way it all held together after repeating this process so many times.

Hardly even a single scratch on the arrow head, even after shooting through the target and hitting the tree once.

I still have to remove more material from the bow stave... or grow bigger arms.
This is a fun project, it's time consuming and only half the battle is making the bow, learning to shoot it worth a damn is a whole other story.
 
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Awesome. I need to get out and try that. Been lazy alot lately :)
 
great job! I can't really tell, but do you have the fletchings on straight, or do you have them "rifled"? May I suggest finding some bird feathers, and attaching them (with your line) like the Native Americans use to?
 
great job! I can't really tell, but do you have the fletchings on straight, or do you have them "rifled"? May I suggest finding some bird feathers, and attaching them (with your line) like the Native Americans use to?

Bird feathers can work just fine, but seem to be a PIA to find when needed, so that is why I added the fletching to my kit seeing how it weighs nothing and takes up very little room.
 
Awesome!!!

Keep on tweakin that bow it looks like your almost there :)

Have you experimented with carving out a shelf into your bow for the arrow to rest upon?

This would be a good fix for your handle problem your experiencing
 
Awesome!!!

Keep on tweakin that bow it looks like your almost there :)

Have you experimented with carving out a shelf into your bow for the arrow to rest upon?

This would be a good fix for your handle problem your experiencing

That is a pretty good idea, I would be a little leary of carving into though. Everything I have read about making these states to not carve into the bow...
 
That is a pretty good idea, I would be a little leary of carving into though. Everything I have read about making these states to not carve into the bow...

Then make a rest and lash it on
 
very nice job, i'm glad to see how much better it held up. did you notice a difference in the balance of the arrow with it mounted in the center? looked like the accuracy was better or your getting better with practice or both.

at any rate good job.

take it easy
cricket
 
That is pretty sweet. I used to shoot a bow when I was younger and think I would do pretty good. I have never read about hand-making a bow.

You still have the online resource for information?
 
Interesting. What kind of effective range are you getting out of it?
 
If you start with a larger branch than necessary, you can actually remove stock from the grip area to make an arrow rest, especially if you reinforce with cordage and glue.
another option is to use a branch with a fork in the middle that you can cut to a stub as your rest. (tougher to get a decent weight bow without a LOT of work, because you'll need a bigger branch)

also - if you want the arms to bend equally, you need to tiller the bow -- this can be done with a simple forked stick that gives you an approximate draw so you can shave away from the limbs to get them to bend evenly while reducing the draw weight of the bow or it can be a chunk of 2-by with notches every 2-3" so you can fine tune the flex in stages until you get the draw you want.
here's a bowmaking site with a picture of a tiller with scale attached.

you're doing great -- keep up the good work and have fun!
 
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