I have been thinking that it is about time for me to get a fully serrated Spyderco. But I don't know which one to get. I was planning to get a Pacific Salt but then I realized that I don't work near any water. The nearest salt water is over 500 miles away from me. So would I be better off getting the Endura 4? Let me know what you guys think.
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Eundura 4 Vs Salt: Which fully serrated Spydie should I get?
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Hey squashfan, I own a dragonfly salt, and I have the serrated pacific salt on the way. From what I've heard, h1 takes a serrated edge as good or better than just about any steel they use. So I'm guessing h1 in se will outperform vg10 in se. Couple that with the complete lack of rust or corrosion of the h1 and I think it's an easy decision.
I use a plain edge salt knife and love it but I would probably not recommend it unless you were going to be in and around saltwater a lot. Steel is really soft in the pe salts. The se is a different story altogether. By all accounts it's about as good as it gets in serrated edges!
Almost forgot, the endura 4 has steel liners where the pacific salt does not. The endura also weighs more. 3.6oz vs. 3.0oz. I kind of like having liners, but I would still go with the spyderedge pacific salt!
I use a plain edge salt knife and love it but I would probably not recommend it unless you were going to be in and around saltwater a lot. Steel is really soft in the pe salts. The se is a different story altogether. By all accounts it's about as good as it gets in serrated edges!
Almost forgot, the endura 4 has steel liners where the pacific salt does not. The endura also weighs more. 3.6oz vs. 3.0oz. I kind of like having liners, but I would still go with the spyderedge pacific salt!
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Both are great. I have a couple Enduras, but I think the Pacific might be better because of the rust proofness and lighter weight.
Alright, I won't argue about which holds a better edge since at least two of you have said H1 beats VG10. I am curious as to WHY H1 out cuts VG10. I must admit that I think H1 will be easier to sharpen.
I have both the Endura and the Goddard Sprint so I have experience with both styles of knife. I guess I like the Goddard just a smidge more. Sounds like an Pacific Salt is in my future.
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H1 is a work hardened steel. It's cold worked since it is basically a "no carbon steel" and is not really heat treatable (according to some online material). The machining of the steel aids in plastic deformation (as opposed to elastic deformation) making the steel harder as it's processed into the final product. There is a reason the H1 models are not FFG. If they were, they may end up becoming too brittle (overly hard) and break/chip out.
You can also get a lightweight & 99.9% corrosion resistant knife.
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Same here. I think the Endura is a sturdier knife due to the liners. The Salt is great if you are going to be using it for fishing, etc. Otherwise, I don't see the point.
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^ What rev said. If you want better edge retention and a blade that will never rust, no matter how you maintain it, get the salt. If you want liners get the endura. Even if I didn't use mine in the ocean, I would still choose the salt (in serrated edge).
Ok, thanks. I am reading a thread over on the Spyderco Forums and learning about H1.
If you're just considering the SE edge, I would pick the Salt. The weight and the steel are great incentives. I just took my Salt Dragonfly into the ocean and I loved not worrying about rust. Peace of mind is a great thing. (Also the advantages of edge retention mentioned.)
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In my experience H1 has very little compressional strength and wear resistance. But excels in toughness, so a serrated edge in H1 can benefit from toughness but it only goes so far before it folds like a deck if cards . It sharpens up easy due up high grind ability. And it scratches if you breath on it wrong!
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IME, serrated H1 holds its edge longer than serrated VG-10, especially if the serrations are not ground overly deep/thin. Sometimes a wire edge may form if you accidentally hit something hard, but that's easy to fix on the Sharpmaker, and it's far better than chipping. Once I bent the very tip on my SE Dragonfly Salt by accidentally dropping it on a hard floor, and I was able to realign it back to normal with the SM. It went back to completely normal, with no sign of weakness or that it ever bent. Any other steel, it would have just chipped off.
I personally don't mind the fact that H1 scratches easily. My Salts are all users, so it's not an issue for me. H1 is certainly a very unusual steel.
Jim
I personally don't mind the fact that H1 scratches easily. My Salts are all users, so it's not an issue for me. H1 is certainly a very unusual steel.
Jim
