Eureka !! I found one...

4ever3

4ever3

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I've been on the prowl for a few years, looked under alot of rocks and talked to more folks than I can count (most of which didn't even know what one was.) Then I get an email one evening that said, go through these pics, there might be something in there you like, and there it was, or so I thought, the picture was fuzzy. So I then emailed the pic to a buddy to see if he thought the same thing I did, and he did. So, alot of phone calls, one auction, and a few anxious days in the mail, she has arrived... A Eureka Jack!

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Thanks for lookin'
 
Nice looking knife 4ever3! I'm assuming it's a rehandled NYK knife?

Eric
 
4ever3 said:
Thanks pomp.

I dont think it has Eric, what makes you think so?
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Now I'm not positive in this, but check it out:

-The jigging doesn't look like NY Knife jigging
-The threads on the bolsters are worn smooth in some spots, but there's no pocket wear on the bone.
-The shield is totally surface mounted, something I doubt NY Knife would have done on such a high end knife. Is it pinned?

I just wanted to make you aware of these inconsistencies, at least as I see them, before it's too late. Possibly I'm wrong though, in which case I sincerely apologize.

Eric
 
Definitely uncertain about the scales. In the pics, there are a few things that really don't fit with factory work. The shield style and not being inletted was the first thing that really sent up red flags for me.
Still a great looking knife. I think removing the shield thats on it now, and having a federal shield inletted into those scales would really change the knife...

I do like the pattern a lot. Hopefully Charlie will be along and have some good insight on your knife....
 
HI 4ever3 -

Very nice!

Thanks for the pictures!

best regards -

mqqn
 
Very fine pattern indeed, well worth the wait.

I would have thought it was re-scaled too, not sure that type of shield would've been used it looks recent. But, so what? If it has been re-handled it's been done excellently. It's a knife I would very much like to have,and I suspect I'm not alone......

Would be a tremendous knife pattern for the 2011 forum Knife, hint!
 
What a great knife.
I really like the pattern and you just don't see too many Eureka's around.
 
Thanks for the kind words guys.

I agree about the shield, although I did find a Bullocks shield in a NYK catalog.

The threaded bolsters is strange as well, on the pile side, all of the threads are there just some of the black has come out, on the mark side all of the threads are there except for the small space on the second one from the scales. If it were rehandled or carried alot, I would think that more of the threading would be gone.

If not NYK bone, who's bone is it?


Keep it coming fellas, this is good stuff, you aint gonna hurt my feelings.
 
Who knows with those "Old Knives".To me,the bone looks like something off a vintage German pocketknife.The only shield I ever saw that was pinned atop the bone scale,was of pretty thin material & laid low & smooth,somewhat beveled edges,if you follow.

Forget about a forum knife,how 'bout the Case Bose collab.,in that pattern for 2011
-Vince
 
4ever3 said:
If not NYK bone, who's bone is it?
Keep it coming fellas, this is good stuff, you aint gonna hurt my feelings.
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The jigging pattern is very similar to Rogers bone, however to me it looks like it was hand done possibly by a custom knife maker. Also the threading on the front bolsters appears to have been done later, not from the factory.


CE
 
:eek: That shield is hangin ten on the bone...cowabunga dude!!! :D That being a instant clue plus the first thing that really stood out to me was the difference in patina of the blade spines in the last pic...especially the runup. The spine of the oversized (appears for this knife) spear blade looks like it has been cleaned up on a grinder. The pen blade has freckles.

Tony had his FIVE eureka jacks out and we were doing some peckerton detinktive work:p. Besides the jigging not being just right, it looks like there are flats on the edges and some places where it tapers out to almost zero which indicates that the bone probably came from another knife. It would be fun to see what is under that shield ;). Look inside the liners to see if there are extra holes for pins that aren't there.

There are cut swedges and long pulls on the main blades on Tony's knives and the pen blade sits in front of it. There are cut swedges on the back of the pen blade to allow access of the spear blade. Yours is different. :confused: An interesting point too is that yours has an extension spring and none of the five of Tony's (2 Empire Knife Co, 2 American Knife Co, 1 American Shear).

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7968951&highlight=eureka+jack#post7968951
 
Speaking of American Shear Knife Company, Tony and I had the pleasure of visiting with a dear friend of his and this guy had the audacity of teasing us with this knife. :eek:

It is Congress Jack made some time between 1870 and 1914, when the factory burned in Hotchkissville, Connecticut. The company started in 1853 making shears and added pocketknives to their line of products in 1870. The company was heavily influenced by Sheffield cutlers, probably due to the fact that they employed a lot of Sheffied cutlers ;)

It's hard to find good examples of this company's knives, let alone mint, unsharpened examples. A lot of the history of this knife is known. It was given to a doctor as a gift upon his graduation from medical school. He apparently wrapped the knife in cotton and put it in a box. The knife was purchased from an antique store about 10 years ago and that's the way Tony's friend found it. The store owner said the doctor was 93 when he died and we don't know exactly when that was.

The knife is 3 1/2" long closed.

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Now that is a beauty. Great story too, the owner must be thrilled to have the history of that knife. Kerry, it's time to use your powers of persuasion to convince Tony to make that one of his future Case/Bose collaborations.
 
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