Ever hear of US Classic from Saltriver, KY?

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Has anyone heard of, or seen any of the US Classic Saltriver, KY knives? Are they just another junk brand or are they decent user knives? I understand they are imported, but from where? China? Never heard of them till now and was just curious.

Thanks.
 
It's hard to get anyone selling them to admit it, but they are made in China. I guess 'China Classics' wouldn't be a very good sales tool as a name. Thankfully, there are plenty of all American real classic knives out there for us to admire, buy, collect.
 
Lol, no I don't think China Classics would do it. Thanks for the info. I guess we should appreciate that there are plenty of knives out there to take the reins of the old Imperials that used to be displayed for a buck or two at counters everywhere.

Thanks again.
 
I've not had the chance to get one yet, but I have heard decent stuff about them. And some of the names I have heard that are involved in this venture are notable.
 
I just discoverd Rough Riders. Going back over the forum here and looking around I'm going to try a few out. Hey, for $10 including shipping it's worth a gamble. I like the nail nick treatments and the variety of handle materials available. I don't expect perfection at that price. However, if they turn out decent and look good then there is a cheap venue for collecting "purdy" knives, just for the lookin. We'll see.

Here is the link to one I just won on ebay for $100 total. Just disregard all the BS and hype the seller is yammering on with. Don't worry, I didn't buy the hype, just the knife. :D . http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=6625680195 I'm also trying to pick up an tortise shell barlow just cause it looks pretty.

I'll still keep an eye out on the Salt Rivers. Curiousity compells me. Thanks for the feedback. Whoever comes across one first we'll post our impressions here.

Another cheap brand I've become curious about is Owl Head. Supposedly made by Munich Ironworks. Of course that could just mean they're made from scap iron left around. ;)

I'm kind of looking for a summer in central Texas pocket knife for general office/string cutting work. Since I'll sweat all over it, I'd rather use something a bit less expensive and that I won't shed much of a tear over if it gets a little uglified from summer carry. Then I can keep my Cases and future Bokers and Queens nice and clean. I have considered a Case SS Sodbuster too, since my CV Sodbuster Jr is my constant companion currently.

Hey, we all need cheap thrills now and then. Otherwise I wouldn't get too many at all.
 
I've picked up several Rough Riders and other brand names that are the same knives, just marketed under other names. I gotta admit, I haven't got that I would call a bad one yet. They have all worked just fine. The biggest strike against them to me personally have been the use of 440A steel.

Look for "Steel Warrior" brand also, I have a Saddlehorn Trapper by them that is as good as most Case knives for fit and finish, again 440A steel is not a favorite of mine, but for an $8.00 beater.
 
The Last Confederate said:
... Look for "Steel Warrior" brand also, I have a Saddlehorn Trapper by them that is as good as most Case knives for fit and finish, again 440A steel is not a favorite of mine, but for an $8.00 beater.

Amen to that brother... I ordered several Saddlehorn Trappers in different colored jigged bone and at the time(over a year+ ago) they just hit the market. Purchased 3 for $24. including shipping. I figured I'd roll the dice and see what the Chinese had to offer for the mere cost of afternoon beer money with the fellows. I was astonished at what arrived in the mail! The Fit and finish and clean lines just blew me away. So I gave my brother and a friend one each and I started to carry the other and to all of our amaziment they preformed extremely well and took alot of abuse! My brother especially hard on all his stuff and has ruined more than his fair share of slipjoints, including some of mine in fact.

I for one decided then that I'd be watching the Chinese pocket knife market with a little more respect. It wasn't very long ago that I laughed at a knife show when someone said that they had some nice Japanese pocketknives for sale.
 
Amos Iron Wolf said:
Another cheap brand I've become curious about is Owl Head. Supposedly made by Munich Ironworks.
Don't let the "Munich" thing fool ya, it's the same as Rough Rider. A little worse, even. I picked up an Owl Head sowbelly (one of my fave patterns), and wasn't terribly impressed; the main blade is awful short for the size of the knife, the grind is kinda pointy, the overall angles and proportions just kinda outta whack.

Since then, I've noticed that it's identical to the Rough Rider and other cheapie brand sowbellies I see around (i.e., every non-Case sowbelly in the SMKW catalog).
 
While we're on the subject of Chinese made slipjoints, I have one Boker Magnum, a sowbelly stockman in red bone. It is very nicely done. Excellent snap in the blades, great fit and finish all around.

It's got 440A blade steel like the others. I think 440A gets a bad rap because it's thought of as the worst of the 440 steels. However, 420HC is used in Case knives, and even high end production slipjoints like Schatt & Morgan and Canal Street. 440A actually has more carbon than 420HC and all else being equal, I believe it's considered a better cutlery steel. In any case, my 440A knives take a great edge and hold it pretty well.
 
Gryffin, thanks for the heads up on the Owl Heads.

longbeachguy, thanks too, you answered a question I had that I hadn't asked yet about the Boker Magnums. I figured they were more an economy made line of Boker. I wasn't sure if it was a case of Boker capitalizing off their name or if it was more a designator on a different line made elsewhere, kind of like the Arbolitos from Argentina. And, I wondered how well the Magnum line was made.

It seems just about all the decent makers are developing Chinese made lines. Perhaps most intend to eventually shift all production there.

I noticed today that a lot of the J.A. Henckle slipjoints have 420 blades. I saw a stag congress that just listed the blades as 420, no other designation and the price was $78 and change.

I had a whole long post written up earlier today but couldn't post because the board became inaccessible for a short time. In the post I stated I'm starting to consider going for stainless blades in lines that I collect primarily to look at and fondle. These I probably won't even sharpen. As the number builds I won't have to worry that if I don't wipe down every blade, every day they might get some rust. Nice to do if I want to do so, but I like not having to do so.

I am collecting Cases and eventually some Queens, Bokers, Robert Klass, and hopefully a Canal Street or two someday. My interest in the Rough Riders is primarily because with the pix I've seen on the internet they have some nice looking knives in some interesting scale materials, a variety of bone, some stag, supposedly some genuine mother of pearl, and a nice looking tortise shell. If they are decently fit and finished then they would make some great cheap thrills in a collection focused mainly on handle materials and patterns, looks and not heavy daily use. Junk however still looks and feels like junk. So if they are junk then no matter how cheap the price it is over priced. They would only be an economical venue if there is reasonable quality in the builds. I'm not expecting top US and European levels, maybe approaching, but not necessarily at current production, basic Case levels. I have started collecting Case regular production, but recognize they aren't the final word on fit and finish, even though they are pretty well finished in general. I mainly apprecaite them based on their history as an American slipjoint staple.

I'll soon see personally how the Rough Riders measure up as I picked up two on ebay this weekend. One is a tortise shell barlow and the other is an imitation abalone muskrat. Each knife was something like $10 each including shipping. (NOT $100 like my typo said in an earlier post in this thread.) So the worst I am out is twenty bucks and can use them for presents for some who aren't really into knives and would just toss them in a drawer.


I'm not really an EDC rotation kind of guy. I pretty much settle on a steady carry and go with that, only changing out for specialty situations or just to test out a knife's carry and usage characteristics. I carried and used my Keshaw Ken Onion Blackout almost exclusively for over a year, only recently replacing it as my EDC with the Case CV Sodbuster Jr. I prattle on so about. I may eventually get to the point I have two or three carefully selected knives that I vary the use of. Maybe I'll have a winter and a summer selection, I don't know. Perhaps I'll just continue to carry a single primary carry and augment that based on the situation.
 
It is sad to see more and more knives made in China. Buck, Smith & Wesson, just about everyone seems to be one the band wagon. I bought a few Rough Riders, the last one a buffalo horn sowbelly stockman, the horn material was dull, it actually look like plastic.

I bought 2 Marbles brand made in China, one sowbelly and one sunfish and they seemed pretty nice. I liked the bone handles and the fit and finish. Still, Marbles, Schrade, Remington, they should be made in America right? Well I guess not.
 
peter78 said:
I bought 2 Marbles brand made in China, one sowbelly and one sunfish and they seemed pretty nice. I liked the bone handles and the fit and finish. Still, Marbles, Schrade, Remington, they should be made in America right?

Yes, Peter, I agree, they really should. You can add Winchester in there too. What sellouts and a disappointment to see venerable American names on cheap stuff stamped "Made in China." If it is going to come from China let it have its own name.

I have a Musket-1, Daddy Barlow, RB 1240, US made by I believe Camillus. Nice fit, lovely peach pit bone scales and nice, crisp walk and talk. Granted, it wasn't cheap even back in 1990 or so when I got it, but it is a pleasing knife to look at and handle. To see the new Remington stuff is sickening.
 
Lot's of pretty, brand new China made knives. Or, you could collect old American pocket knives. This is what I was referring to above when I wrote that we have lots and lots of collectible knives to buy, admire, collect. Just a thought.
 
textoothpk said:
Lot's of pretty, brand new China made knives. Or, you could collect old American pocket knives. This is what I was referring to above when I wrote that we have lots and lots of collectible knives to buy, admire, collect. Just a thought.

Lol, or we could do all the above. Sigh, so many delightful knives out there it makes my head spin, inside from being overwhelmed and literally from trying to look at them all at the same time. I made the mistake of noticing the Boker stag scaled slippies. Wow, I like their look much better than many other stags. I want some.

I checked into a 12-step plan for knife addicts and it was just an organized plan for building multiple collections. I think I might have signed up.
 
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