Ever heard of one of these before?

[lagarto]

Okay Kukri fans here's a brain twister.

A friend of mine just found an auction on ebay for an 1820's Kukri bayonet. Supposedly made for the British Brown Bess when the Brits first went in to Nepal. He asked me if I'd ever heard of one, and I hadn't but I thought somebody here may know if these were really made or if it's a fake. Here's a link to the pictures

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36037&item=2241397419&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

Thanks
Lagarto

 

[Thomas Linton]

Use "Search" for "bayonet" in this forum. Odds are against it's being genuine.

 

[spiraltwista]

Thomas has sussed it.

& just for fun look at the cho creep on it as well! amazing! Dont let Yvsa see it!

cheers,
Spiral

 

[Ferrous Wheel]

the guy says he can "verify it is authentic." wonder how that works?

Buyer calling: Hey, is that thing authentic? Are you authorized to authenticate this thing?
Seller: Uh, yep.
Buyer: Well, good enuf fer me!
Seller: Cha-ching!

Keith

 

[ddean]

No great knowledge on my part.

These have been discussed before
with the general asumption that they are not 'real'.

If you look at the angle of blade to barrel,
you see it could not be very useful as a stabbing bayonet.

Yet I've had my suspicions that they were carried by Gurkhas at one time.
In a parade when some ranking officer
(I'm thinking British officer, not Nepali)
decided they 'looked good'.
I bet a bunch were put together for such a purpose, once.
Maybe twice.
Any created after that were probably for done specifically
for sale to tourists or collectors.

But just a suspicion & a guess.

 

[ddean]

look at the cho creep on it

Hadn't noticed that before.

So this was made as is.......

Not a retrofit of a regular khuk with a mount welded on......

hmmmmmm.............

I think they were originally 'parade' decorations.

 

[spiraltwista]

They did exist, But that isnt one of them.

Now,Now Ferrous that sounds rather cynical! Why I bet he would even give you a "genuine certificate of Authenticity" if you want one!

cheers,
Spiral

 

[lagarto]

Thanks for the help folks.
Lagarto

 

[Rusty]

John Powell where are you?

 

[Daniel Koster]

John Powell where are you?

He's probably avoiding this thread on purpose....

 

[ddean]

Interesting to compare these two pix.

the top is more likely converted from a 'regular' kukri
and the point is dropped much lower.

The bottom is obviously made originally as a bayonet form--
see 'cho creep' & connection to barrel mounting.

Whether or not it is another 'type' of fake is another question.

from:
http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/Fake_Bayonets.htm#UK KUKRI

compared to the ebay item:

 

[fenryr]

Oh this is ironic.....just was talking with Spiral about one I saw at the gunshow this weekend. The cho was rather high as in the second photo of Ddean's. The dealer was asking $95 for his.....passed that one up rather easily.

Amazing how this stuff arrives universally.....

 

[Ferrous Wheel]

that obvious, eh? You can see how I feel about ePrey.

Keith