Extram ratio?

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hey so im new to the world of REAL knives, loved blades and swords for as long as i can remember and i now have the money to move beyond cheap china no names and have been for knives that wow me, i came across some Extrema ratio and i like alot of there blades but i dont know much about steels they use n690(?) and there is alot of companies claim to be endorsed by the military yet there knives look more like some thing from the klingon empire (dark-ops,mantis) so i was hoping you guys might be able to give me your thoughts on Extrema ratio? :) thanks for your time
 
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Personally, I think Extrema Ratio knives are too mall ninja-ish. By many accounts they are pretty high quality, but to me they just seem a little aggressive and tacky. Also, I think their prices are a little high in comparison to some other options on the market. Tell me any any Extrema Ratio knife, in any price range, and I can tell you a Benchmade, a Spyderco, and a Kershaw that I think is better for less money.
 
so for a folder of around 150 dollars what would you recommend? and is a lock back really better then a liner lock?
 
I'm a firm believer that if you can't spell the name of the company, their product probably isn't for you. Good luck in your quest.
 
so for a folder of around 150 dollars what would you recommend? and is a lock back really better then a liner lock?

You literally have countless options for around $150. First you'll have to decide what features and size you're looking for. Blade length? Thickness? Weight? Handle material? Lock type? Steel preference? Blade grind? Opening method? Etc.

Without any of that info it is difficult to give a really good recommendation. A few popular knives in your price range from a few different makers are:

Spyderco: Paramilitary 2, Military, Manix 2, Gayle Bradley, Sage 1/2/3/4, Native 5, Caly 3/3.5

Benchmade: Just about all of them but a few highlights are the 710, 707 Sequel, 940/943 Osbourne, 950 Rift, 810 Contego, 275 Adamas, 730 Ares, and many others.

Kershaw/Zero Tolerance: Leek (g10-s30v), Blur (s30v or limited cpm-154), Speedform 2, ZT 0350
 
If you choose to buy one make sure it is through a reputable seller.Knockoffs of this brand are somewhat common.
 
I was given a Cold steel spartan and love the thing for its weight and feel, not sure if i like there marketing, i want a plane edge the is around 3 inches or more, dont really know much about grinds and what they have to offer, and handle material is not a big issue as long as its not super slick, lock types i have used are lock backs and liner locks have only have a few liners fail but that was cheap doller store blades not sure about the other kinds of locks out there are, i like flippers and steel types are kinda a new thing for me, i like AUS-8 and i have used a 420HC from buck and loved them other then that i dont really know, oh and i hate serrations and thanks Rycen i will be careful :)
 
I was given a Cold steel spartan and love the thing for its weight and feel, not sure if i like there marketing, i want a plane edge the is around 3 inches or more, dont really know much about grinds and what they have to offer, and handle material is not a big issue as long as its not super slick, lock types i have used are lock backs and liner locks have only have a few liners fail but that was cheap doller store blades not sure about the other kinds of locks out there are, i like flippers and steel types are kinda a new thing for me, i like AUS-8 and i have used a 420HC from buck and loved them other then that i dont really know, oh and i hate serrations and thanks Rycen i will be careful :)

I wouldn't worry about a high quality liner lock, they are just as reliable if done right as any other lock type. In terms of strength, cold steel's triad lock (basically a back lock with a stop pin), Benchmade's axis lock, and spyderco's compression lock (looks like a backwards liner lock, but really is completely different and VERY strong) definitely are tops. In terms of ease of operation, axis and compression locks win.

Blade grinds are very much personal preference. A hollow grind gives you a very thin blade behind the edge, but a thicker spine. A full flat grind will be just that, flat from the spine to the edge. Full flat grinds are known as good slicers. Saber grinds start part way down the blade, keeping the spine thick nearly all the way to the point, gaining strength but sacrificing slicing ability. This is a VERY simple explanation of these grinds but will give you an idea other cutting performance of a particular knife before you use it.

Blade steel is also very subjective, but the aus-8 and 420hc you've used is pretty low end. In your price range, look for s30v, 154cm, vg10, d2, zdp-189, m390, elmax, and a few others. Any of those listed steels will blow aus-8 and 420hc out of the water in edge retention, but many will be more difficult to sharpen.

Handle materials vary greatly by price and application, but g10, aluminum, and titanium are common in knives in your price range. Aluminum and titanium are pretty self explanatory. G10 is a layered composite made of glass fibers and resin. G10 is extremely durable and grippy.

Given your mention of flippers as well as liking the heft of your cold steel, I would recommend the zero tolerance 0350. It's a beefy assisted opening flipper with a 3.5" blade with s30v blade steel and nice grippy g10 handles. The torsion bar that springs the blade open can be removed making it a manual action flipper if you want. Can be found in either black dlc coated blade or bead blasted or stonewashed.

A light weight slicer alternative would be the spyderco paramilitary 2. 3.5" S30V blade, full sized g10 handle with excellent ergonomics, spectacular compression lock. Just a great knife, and perhaps one of the best edc knives of all time, and certainly one of the best knives around under $200.
 
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I'm a firm believer that if you can't spell the name of the company, their product probably isn't for you. Good luck in your quest.

Great way to welcome a new fan of the forums! (I sure hope I spelled everything ok)
 
Welcome to the Forum. I agree with Mkjellgren Can't go wrong with Spyderco, Benchmade and kershaw for a knife. I've only handled a couple Extrema Ratio knives and I didn't like them at all. I would never purchase one just because they are not to my tastes but I'm sure there may be other forum members who own maybe one and one of the others and can give you the advice you seek. I love my para 2's and manix 2 in spyderco and love my benchmades as well. All depends on the design, steel and feel in hand to me.

You will love this place. A lot of great people on here.
 
MKjellgren had lots of suggestions. The first one he said....the first ONE, is IMO the best for you.
The Spyderco Paramilitary 2. You can buy it in lots of blade-steels, but the cheapest blade, and most common, is in S30V. This is a fine steel and many custom makers use it in their knives. You can get this knife for about $105 and the lock is the compression lock. This is a very strong, excellent, efficient lock system and offers very smooth, very rapid unlocking and locking. I have about six of these and love 'em.
Good luck to you.
Sonnytoo
 
Extrema ratio knives are quality, regardless of the looks. N690 is quality steel and they run thick at EXR. But for your price I would not recommend one. Zero tolerance is my pick. Check out kershaw guy.com he has great deals. Sounds like the 0350 would be ideal. Find him on here and pm about your pick, he'll hook you up.
 
Thanks guys :) i look up the zero tolerance 0350 and that is one sweet blade, it turns out i can own it in Canada even though assisted and autos are banned but i guess for some reason if it uses a bar instead of a spring i can have it :) and i think i will really enjoy this place :) its been super awesome so far, i just have to find a retailer that ships zero tolerance to canada :)
 
so for a folder of around 150 dollars what would you recommend? and is a lock back really better then a liner lock?

at the moment on a certain site that works on selling knifes there is a BM onslaught which is a good deal for a limited edition which is around $150
 
Careful about Canadian laws, assisted opening knives are legal but I prefer manual ones for a host of reasons...
 
ok thanks :), and i will i have been working pretty hard to wrap my head around the laws we have and i can tell you they are about as dumb as it gets :P but currently a torsion bar assisted knife is legal and i found a dealer in canada that has the 0350 for $138 :) so i ordered one all black, so pumped and i guess if the rules change i can turn it in to a manual but i would need a lot of help on that one :P thanks so much guys
 
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