Extreme heat and battery life

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Might be the wrong area to ask this. Does extreme heat(over 110 dgrees) affect the life of batteries especially lithium ones. Seems that battery life for my battery operated items is shorter here in the sandbox than it is at home. This holds true for both alkaline and lithium in both high and low drain devices.

Or am I imagining it:confused:
 
I know that cold kills the advertised milliamp hours on alkaline batts. Lithium batts retain practically all their amp hours in cold weather.

Hot weather never "drained" the batts in my radios or flashlights(Mojave Desert). Cold sure seems to sap them, though.

CHEERS
 
All I know is that my camera especially goes through lithiums about twice as fast as it does back in the Midwest. Maybe I got a bad lot of batteries, thanks.
 
ALL chemical batteries suffer a loss of power due to heat.

Specifically, for every 18 degree increase of temperature (above about 70 degrees), your battery life decreases by 50%. All temperatures are F.

So at 70 degrees, a new battery might give you 4 days of life.

At 88 degrees, you'll get only 2 days.

At 106 degrees, you'll get a day.

And so on. For smaller batteries, with a runlife of a few hours, you might get only minutes of battery life.

Not all batteries recover from this: if you immediately lower the temperature, you *might* get some of the original life back, but thermodynamics being the hard lady she is, your odds are not good.

Dry solid polymer Lithium Ion (lion) batteries however can retain their performance even past 100 degrees, but few lion commercial batteries meet this type due to their high cost.

Further, subjecting batteries to low temperatures will also affect their life. Cold will definitely cause problems with recharging rechargeable batteries by lengthening the time it takes to recharge them.

As always, keep batteries as much as possible at room temperature. If you have to subject batteries to high temperatures (deserts, or leaving items in your car in the sun), do NOT rely on any expectations of how long they will last.
 
It doesn't matter one way or the other. Hot or cold. alkaline or lithium ion. A battery starts to die the moment you hit the switch. some devices drain off batteries slower than others, but death is coming. (Batteries Wont Last!) If you plan to spend a lot time away from the battery rack at your local walmart, them pick up a good solar charger, and always have a set of batteries in it. that way, you will always have power at hand. There a lot of battery alternatives out there too, like hand cranked lights and radios, and those shaker lights really work. I was surprised at that.
 
ranger88 said:
It doesn't matter one way or the other. Hot or cold. alkaline or lithium ion. A battery starts to die the moment you hit the switch. some devices drain off batteries slower than others, but death is coming. (Batteries Wont Last!) If you plan to spend a lot time away from the battery rack at your local walmart, them pick up a good solar charger, and always have a set of batteries in it. that way, you will always have power at hand. There a lot of battery alternatives out there too, like hand cranked lights and radios, and those shaker lights really work. I was surprised at that.

I don't know about the shaker lights (haven't tried them) but I agree with all the rest. In fact, I'm in the process of looking for a small AA charger right now. The one I'm looking for charges 4 AA at a time and it has a protective cover, that, I assume, makes the batteries secure. I also purchased a crank light (3 LED's) a few weeks back, and while it won't light up the sky, does a fairly good job. It has 2 levels of brightness. One to conserve the charge, and one for more light.

Doc
Master of the creative apostrophe.
 
I have 2 of those shaker LED lights, advertized under the name "Faraday Light". Came with a small and large (standard size).

They do actually work. They even hold a charge. I just picked up the larger one, it hasn't been shaken in 4 or 5 days, and it has light (a charge).

There are all types of configuarations with these shakers. Some even have the small flat batteries in them, so buyer beware, do your research.
When the batteries finally die, you can shake all you want, they won't light.

My aim was not Biggest/Brightest/Longest as much as it was TOTAL energy independance. A dim bulb that will go forever may be better than a battery powered bulb with a dead battery and none available.

When all batteries have died, I wanted a light that could keep going.

The light in these "shakers" is not terribly impressive, however, if you've ever been in the woods, cloudy night, in pure total darkness, there is gonna be a big difference between that, and the light from one of these shakers.
Light is light, at that point. It would give enough light to go get some more firewood or see the trail while walking in the dark.

I took my shaker out in the woods for a quick test and it gave enough light to see the trail, not bump into trees, etc.

With all that said, you will have to shake it every 5 or 10 minutes.
They don't just die, you'll just notice the light fading and it's time for some shakin.

The trade offs for never having to deal with batteries are:

-Not as much Candle Power as a typical battery powered light.
-Having to stop to give it 20 or 30 seconds worth of shakes to restore power.

The smaller of the two will go in my 72hour survival kit. The larger will just be a knock-around in the house, power failure, handy light.

That's the scoop onthe shakers, so far.

I hear they are making stirides on the light power and putting bigger LEDs in them, so, one day, perhaps they will rival the lgihts we have all grown accustomed to.
 
Some flashlights come with something called a 1 watt LUXON LED. (I think that's the right word, someone correct me if I'm wrong.) Anyway, I bought a Dorcy mini LED from wallyworld that has one, and it is super bright. Much brighter than a standard LED. It takes 4 AAA's. Cool light for $18.
 
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