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swimmerdude1127

swimmerdude1127

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hi all, i picked up my first piece of infi today finally, a CG BATAC from BCS. when i opened up the box, i was actually surprised though... the blade was very dull compared to many other knives i have bought before.

it was hardly shaving sharp. my swamp rat was much sharper than this out of the box. also, on the tip, it looks like it might have been dropped, because the point is not so sharp either.

what gives?
 
swimmerdude1127 said:
hi all, i picked up my first piece of infi today finally, a CG BATAC from BCS. when i opened up the box, i was actually surprised though... the blade was very dull compared to many other knives i have bought before.

it was hardly shaving sharp. my swamp rat was much sharper than this out of the box. also, on the tip, it looks like it might have been dropped, because the point is not so sharp either.

what gives?
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I'd send it back and have it touched up. (To the shop at Busse Combat that is)
 
i have a sharp-maker and i can do it myself without too much trouble, i was just expecting to be amazed, and well... wasn't so much.

plus i don't really want to pay shipping on something i can do myself. this sounds dumbly obvious but i guess i will have to see what the knife can do when i use it for it to impress me....
 
yeah, i really hate how dull the factory edges are too. that's why i've stocked up on sandpaper. sandpaper and a mousepad > sharpmaker imo
 
Sometimes they come with a wire edge that needs removed.
Happened with my CGFBM.
I stroked it twice on fine ceramic and then...
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I've yet to be wowed as well. I just roll with it and sharpen them to my liking. I'm in the process of reprofiling a CG BATAC to a more knife like- and less axe like- edge profile. In my limited experience, the shop is good at getting the belly sharp but could really use some work in getting the front 1/3 or so sharp. This is based on 1 game warden, 1 BATAC LE, and 1 CG BATAC. Hardly a representative sampling, but it (the lack of front 1/3 sharpness) is a consistent trend within the population. I think that the problem is industry wide in that knife grinders sharpen blades to have a consistent edge bevel height (pretty edge) and not a consistent edge bevel angle.
 
swimmerdude1127 said:
hi all, i picked up my first piece of infi today finally, a CG BATAC from BCS. when i opened up the box, i was actually surprised though... the blade was very dull compared to many other knives i have bought before.

it was hardly shaving sharp. my swamp rat was much sharper than this out of the box. also, on the tip, it looks like it might have been dropped, because the point is not so sharp either.

what gives?
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it may have been dropped at some point. let skunk know, im sure he will replace it for you.

or you can sharpen it yourself. for me it's normally not worth the hassle of sending something back unless the i cannot fix the problem myself.
 
Regarding the sandpaper / mousepad method: Are you pulling the knife backwards across the paper, away from the edge when sharpening (like stropping a razor) or pushing forward towards the edge (like using a wetstone) ?
 
MikeyT said:
Regarding the sandpaper / mousepad method: Are you pulling the knife backwards across the paper, away from the edge when sharpening (like stropping a razor) or pushing forward towards the edge (like using a wetstone) ?
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away from the edge.
 
Once Upon a Time, Long, Long Ago, When Jerry Sharpened all the knives 99% or so were hair poppen sharp.

When I complained about the other 1% Jerry sent me a Busse Strop, pre-loaded with the proper grit and told me to wipe a little WD-40 on the knife to remove any remaining grit and to strop it.

Worked pretty good.

It was Good to be The Busse Guy sometimes.
 
Most of the edges from the factory are usually average to sharp. They sharpen it the quick way with a belt then do a quick strop most likely with a leather belt or wheel. Not much time is put in to refine the edges like most of us knifenuts are accustomed to.... As a few other posters mentioned. Alot of times they come with wire edges that need a little stropping to get them to cut decently.

As I mentioned before in my other post.... I prefer to put my own edges on my knives even if they came sharp from the factory. No one knows what edge profiles suits me better than myself.

Knowing Jerry and his superb Customer Service I am sure that he would probably even cover the shipping for you to send the knife back.

I know I may get ribbed for this....Unless you really hate sharpening or just don't have the skills...you are probably better off redoing that edge yourself to save time.
 
hey, i actually spent about 30 minutes trying to get it sharper earlier today... it takes awhile, as i am used to sharpening smaller fixed blades... which usually have slightly softer steels than INFI.

i also noticed that when sharpening, it seems like the edge of the crinkle coat gets in the way, and it takes a few extra strokes just to rub that part down.

here's another question, though... when i was trying to sharpen the front 1/4 of the knife, and get a sharper tip, a piece of the coating sorta just flaked off the very top of the knife connecting to the tip (about 1/16" of it). this doesn't bother me so much, as i plan on this knife being a user... so the coating is bound to wear. but is it normal to happen like this, and so soon?

and... along with this... how do you put a penetrator tip on by your self? is it hard to do a good job?

i don't know about all of you, but i hesitate a lot with sending stuff (any product, really) back... i like to be a "do-it-your selfer" so i want to try and put a nice sharp edge on it on my own, as well as maybe add the penetrator tip to it, if possible.

thanks for the help!
 
the coating chip is somewhat normal.

the toughest coating in my experience is the tan, the softest is the muddy.

as far as the armor piercing (penetrator is the swamprat version) tip, it shouldnt be too tough. if you use a grinder or edge pro it will go much faster than a stone.
 
another dumb one... obviously an edge pro is a sharpener, where is a good price on one, and is it easy to work for someone who isn't a sharpening pro? (for example, the sharpmaker makes it easy for basically anyone to put a nice edge on a knife)
 
swimmerdude1127 said:
another dumb one... obviously an edge pro is a sharpener, where is a good price on one, and is it easy to work for someone who isn't a sharpening pro? (for example, the sharpmaker makes it easy for basically anyone to put a nice edge on a knife)
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i payed about 200.00 shipped for mine. i got the whole set. you can order one with only the lower grit stones.

ive found it is easy to use, and more precise than the sharpmaker. im not an expert sharpener either, but have had much better results with the apex.
 
I personally like it when I get a knife from Busse with a thick, dull edge...which has happened a few times. I like to put the profile I like on my knives instead of being given one. I sharpen by hand so I get the same edge on all my knives and like to keep it consistent. I don't use any sharpening systems because I like to keep a convex edge. I'm sure they work great though. Tyrkon demonstrated his skill on the edge pro and I was impressed with the edge he was able to put on.

I know many people HATE them, but I really like the asymmetrical edge...it's a wicked slicer and chopper. Can't go wrong with that one :D.
 
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