Fake our Buck made?

Haebbie

Haebbie

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As written in Armand's Bucklite thread I found a knife at the German eBay that looks exactly like the Buck 422. The only bigger difference to my original 422 is the squared feather instead of the round in the Buck knife and the engraving on the blade. What do you think?

Does the German supplier of Buck knives selled a counterfeit from a Buck knife in Germany? Or is the knife made by Buck for the faithful buck distributor? I don't have neither a box nor any paperwork. But here are some pictures.

Haebbie







 
Hi Haebbie,
Was looking through the post and there was a picture of a man at a festival holding a knife sitting on a stump was that you? Don't know anything about Bucklites.
 
It's been awhile and have no pictures to back it up but I'm sure I have seen close Chinese copies in the past. Not sure that applies here though.
 
It's not a fake unless they mark it "Buck" and represent it as a Buck.
So.......seems to me it's just another copy and no wrong has been done.
People have been copying Buck knives for many years.
I don't think Buck makes knives for others.
 
I don't know if your laws allow it, but could it be made in China for the German company without being labeled as "Made in China?"
That seems to me to be the most likely scenario.
 
Yes, VorpalRain, that's, if it is, not a fake but a copy. I think the origin has to be on the product. But there is nothing on it. Neither U.S.A. nor Germany or China. But sometimes Herbertz sells overruns of buck knives. For example: the HD bowie 908 without etching. I have a 470 Mentor that has nothing on it, sold in Germany by Herbertz. In the case of the 422, the knife is marked with Herbertz. There is nothing on the knife that allows the identification as a Buck knife. The difference is the spring. Is there anybody who knows what kind of spring Buck used for the 422? If Buck only used round springs, the knife would be a copy. But I don't know.

Haebbie
 
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I remember the days when knives had positive tang stamps on the blade instead of these cheap and tacky looking "etchings."
Etching makes it easy for anyone to name a blade anything.
 
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't it possible that the answer is simply that Buck does, indeed, (or has) made these knives for a big distributor? Haven't they done this for others? Aren't they contracted to make Remington brand knives, now? Since Camillus and many other makers are no longer around, and Buck is pretty big, they would be a logical choice to contract knives from.
 
Didn't Buck make some models in the "Redhead" line for Bass Pro Shops that were not stamped with the Buck name? Could be the same here?
 
Yes, that is an idea. But I asked Joe H. And he can't remember Buck ever made knife like this for Herbertz. He asked for box and papers but I only have the knife.

Haebbie
 
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Buck also made some knives for Browning that were not stamped with Buck anywhere on them. That is my guess on this bucklite as well.
 
I think China is the most likely source, especially with a very cheap knife like this one.
But......who can predict what Buck might do?
They've done some pretty strange things in he past.
 
Haebbie said:
You think Herbertz removed the etching and put the own engraving on the blade? But there is still the missing Bucklite on the handle.

Haebbie
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No, I was thinking that the maker left the tang unstamped and bare and then anyone could put some cheap etching or engraving on it.
Earlier, I was talking about a REAL tang stamp........like we used to see on all Buck knives.
I guess that type of marking has mostly been eliminated and replaced by cheap, tacky engraving or etching.
 
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By looking at the inside lock spring I'd say it's not a Buck. Buck used the round stock, your questionable knife is using flat bar stock!

JB
 
Haebbie said:
Yes, VorpalRain, that's, if it is, not a fake but a copy. I think the origin has to be on the product. But there is nothing on it. Neither U.S.A. nor Germany or China. But sometimes Herbertz sells overruns of buck knives. For example: the HD bowie 908 without etching. I have a 470 Mentor that has nothing on it, sold in Germany by Herbertz. In the case of the 422, the knife is marked with Herbertz. There is nothing on the knife that allows the identification as a Buck knife. The difference is the spring. Is there anybody who knows what kind of spring Buck used for the 422? If Buck only used round springs, the knife would be a copy. But I don't know.

Haebbie
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Every Bucklite or Selector I ever took apart had a round spring.
 
Haebbie,

I think it's a good copy... The two halves are made different...
You can see that in the knife well, when they put it together...
The blade is a little different and the lock spring is different as
you can see... It's just a good copy... I like it... This is the only
one I have ever seen... Please post the pictures in the Bucklite
thread... Thanks for sharing...

:)
 
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