Fallkniven F1 chipping problem?

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So I'm looking for a new fixed blade, something more high quality than a mora. I've heard great things on the Fallkniven F1 and I'm intending to get it. BUT I've heard and read about chipping problems. From what I've seen in videos, the performance of the knife is great, but I do like to beat on my knives quite abit. I don't mind touching up on the edge once a week, but it would be quite annoying to have to do it every 2 times I use it. Either way, I'm probably still gonna get it. I just like to know what I'm paying for. I'm thankful for any input on this topic!
 
I have had 2 still own 1. Never had chipping problems with either, just don't hit stuff ur not suppose to
 
While I don't have an f2, I do have the a2 and I've never had a chip or ding or anything on the blade, the lamination on the should give it more strength and chip less than unlaminated vg10, going through flesh bone and wood you should not have a problem.
 
If you do decide to go with the f2 don't for get to get the sharpener fallkniven offers, it's a double sided ceramic, all fallkniven come with micro bevel, so regular stropping will not get the edge back to the level it should be
 
I have used an F1 extensively and never had a problem with chipping.

A few years ago I got the version in 3G and shot this picture to compare the wear and tear on the original Laminated VG-10 versus the "then-new" one:
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If you truly beat on your knife why not get something with a better warranty? Falk only offers a 2 year conditional warranty. Plus it would have to go back to Europe or Japan to determine if you are even covered. Lots of companies have knives that chip but it is mostly due to the factory edge. A couple sharpenings and that will be a non issue. I would be more concerned about a company standing behind their product. Esee has a forever, transferable, no questions asked warranty. Plus they are made right here in the US. If you truly beat on your knife Esee would be the way to go.
 
My F1 and A1 have never chipped. They've batoned a decent amount and held up very well but I haven't really chopped much with them, usually leave that to the axe.
 
I'll start this off by saying I was stupid. Now that that's established, I had a camping trip with my Fallkniven f1 and I was battoning would like a son of a gun. It handled everything fantastically. I had a blood lust and felt the knife was invincible. There was a piece of wood that had a Staple in it where the handles are attached to bundled firewood. Thinking to myself, "This knife has taken everything I've thrown at it, I'm going to pry this staple out of this piece of would using the tip of this knife!" I broke the tip off of my knife. I barely broke it off, had it reprofiled and know you can't tell the tip was ever gone (Though the sharpener I sent it off to put a micro-bevel on it instead of re-convexing it which kind of pissed me off).

The point I'm trying to make is I beat the hell out of it and had to do something truly stupid to break it.

I also want to add that occasionally there's a production knife that feels like it was made just for you. This knife fits my large sized hands absolutely perfect. It's an incredibly comfortable knife for me to use. It comes in at a great weight with a very capable sheath as well.
 
To Craytab's point, I have an F1 and an ESEE-4 (among others), and the one I "beat on" is the ESEE.

I don't have an issue with Falkniven's warranty and agree that and chipping on the vg-10 should go away with a few sharpenings (but I haven't seen it on mine). Still, ESEE's 1095 should be a fair amount tougher than Falk's vg-10, at least at the edge, and if something were to happen while I'm batoning or whatever it's nice to have the "no questions asked, we'll replace it" warranty on the ESEE.

There are things about the F1 I really like though, which is why I've kept both.
 
As near as I can tell from feedback around multiple forums I figure maybe 1 of a thousand might encounter this an usually is because blade was overheated during grinding. No biggie just sharpen it out. You would go with their 3 g steel. Haven't heard about a chip yet
 
That one was a little different though, that knife had pretty significant chipping and pictures to back it up.
 
I just figure higher RC = easier to chip. The Ontario ASEK, for example, is hardened for 54 RC. If you look around, you'll find other production knives that are further down on the Rockwell scale, versus the 59 RC of the F1.
 
I have had minor chipping on the edge of it on a few occasions, especially at first, so i usually attribute this to the factory edge or abuse, but i have an adheisive diamond stone stuck to the front of the molded sheath and have usually managed to fix these pretty quick. I have carried this knife for over 6 years at work and beat it through more branches, roots and sticks while making shelters, fires, traps and god knows what out of sheer boredom and never once felt like i was going to break it. It doesn't have a lifetime warranty sure, but a lot of things in the world do not and nobody complans.. why would they? If you have used one of these or watched one of the destruction videos on a fallkniven, you would know that you have to be absolutely abusing it in order to actually render it unserviceable. It could be possible this company figures 2 years is enough to evaluate whether a knife is defective... and if so, that is likely the only time a company should have to repair or replace one... not because you snapped off the tip hammering it into a concrete block or trying to lever open a safe with it. imagine if every company just replaced every knife you decided to abuse because you could? a lot of companies would go under pretty quick!
 
I have had minor chipping on the edge of it on a few occasions, especially at first, so i usually attribute this to the factory edge or abuse, but i have an adheisive diamond stone stuck to the front of the molded sheath and have usually managed to fix these pretty quick. I have carried this knife for over 6 years at work and beat it through more branches, roots and sticks while making shelters, fires, traps and god knows what out of sheer boredom and never once felt like i was going to break it. It doesn't have a lifetime warranty sure, but a lot of things in the world do not and nobody complans.. why would they? If you have used one of these or watched one of the destruction videos on a fallkniven, you would know that you have to be absolutely abusing it in order to actually render it unserviceable. It could be possible this company figures 2 years is enough to evaluate whether a knife is defective... and if so, that is likely the only time a company should have to repair or replace one... not because you snapped off the tip hammering it into a concrete block or trying to lever open a safe with it. imagine if every company just replaced every knife you decided to abuse because you could? a lot of companies would go under pretty quick!

If it fails they replace it. No limit on time. No limit on ownership. No limit on circumstance. If I had a knife company with a warranty like that, I would make damn sure the knives were well made. Otherwise the company could go under pretty quick.

It says a lot about a company when they have a forever no questions asked warranty; and they are still in business.
 
Of course it does... nobody would ever disagree about that. I have the same warranty on all my knives as well because i stand 100% behind my product and to a lesser extent that it inspires confidence in the product for the buyer. My point was, just as devils advocate, why should a company have to have a no questions asked 100% lifetime warranty? common sense should dictate that if you misused a product or abused it, then at some point you have to expect that it will fail... every piece of equipment in the world will fail if it is mistreated, bar none! So to say that that company should be responsible to replace one you have abused is above and beyond what would be considered nessesary or fair (to that company) and I 100% guarantee that all of those companies would change that warranty if more of their knives came back abused and they had to replace it because someone was an idiot!... i do it yes, but i'm not basing my livelyhood on it. and my company won't go bankrupt if i get a few back here and there.
 
I wouldn't buy an fallkniven product because I don't particularly like the company. I know a few swedes and love their films, TV shows and vodka. Fallkniven claims to be swedish, but the knives are from Japan. Most of their designs are japanese styles not swedish and their super steels are japanese. That's OK, but the blades and the website do not say Japan, they say sweden. They claim to be "the leading knife specialist in Scandinavia since 1984". Since their products are not made in Sweden, but Eka's are designed and made in Sweden, the claim seems spurious if not a lie.

They offer a poor warranty compared to Spyderco, Benchmade, and Buck. But the warranty has recently changed, not sure I understand it:

"Each new Fällkniven product is covered with a ten year warranty. Fällkniven AB warrants to the original owner that Fällkniven knives purchased from authorized dealers will be free from defects in materials and workmanship. Fällkniven AB will without charge, repair or replace at our option, any product returned for warranty work and found to be defective by us."

"The Fällkniven AB warranty only applies to Fällkniven products purchased from authorized Fällkniven dealers, be careful to save the receipt. Products purchased on the internet through discount websites or through any other unauthorized source are not entitled to our warranty coverage. Grey-imported products are NOT covered by our warranty."

A current search of their website indicates that there are no repair services offered. They offer a "grinding service" but it is not clear how to access this service and the prices for "outside" EU are in kroner.

Below is fallkniven's reason to buy their knives:

"WHY BUY AN EXPENSIVE FALLKNIVEN PRODUCT?

It’s correct to put that question. What do you get, actually? Well, first of all you get a lot of knife from the very start, a knife which is strong, comfortable and stays sharp very well or extremely well. And, after some ten or twenty years, it’s time for grinding the knife back to original shape. Ten dollars later, you can continue to use the knife for another ten years, or so. You also get a safe knife, well tested long before it was put into production. As a result, our warranty commitments are as low as 0,1 %.

Expensive? No. Cost effective? Yes.

And during all these years you have had the access to a much reliable knife, well tested by both elite soldiers and people who use to stay long in the wilderness. Check your knife account, we are sure that you haven’t bought many more knives after you made your first purchase of a Falky knife. Expensive? No. Enjoyable? Yes.

Instead, you’ve been climate smart! You haven’t gone for those fancy, hip, fashion, super cheap knives though they look good and were offering a smart surface and design. There is a straight connection between price and quality and for sure, you understand that a cheap knife cannot provide much of a quality. So, buying many cheap knives, you are wasting our limited earth resources and still you need to replace them every year because they don’t stand up to your expectations.

So, now you know. Buying cheap is expensive, buying quality will make you smile. Save your wallet and the climate and buy a Fallkniven product – you won’t regret that!"

I am sure their knives are fine, since the people who run the website and make the policies don't make the knives :) Sometimes though service is a discriminator for choosing a knife.
 
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I love my F1! No chips even buthcherd deer with it splitting rib cages and such. It's wicked sharp too
 
I have a A1 and an F1 never any problems with the F1 but I've had the A1 chip the edge in a few places. Haven't completely been able to sharpen the chips out yet considering they were quite substantial. Never had this happen on any of my other knives in all the years of camping, hiking, hunting etc. But the F1 has seen more use than most if not all my fixed blade knives and never a problem I really like the knife.
 
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