False alarm

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Took the coon-hound out in the front yard for a pee tonight and noticed a flickering yellow light in the window of the top floor of the 3-flat across the street. It looked to me like a fire, so -- I called 911. The trucks showed up in 2 minutes and it turned out to be nothing...a fan in front of a lamp, I guess.
The CFD/CPD show an impressive presence, I must say. 3 trucks, and a police car. Sorry guys... I thought I was doing the right thing.
Was I foolish to call? Should I have ignored my intuition? How would I feel if there was afire, and there were fatalities, and I didn't call?
 
Bri in Chi said:
Sorry guys... I thought I was doing the right thing.
Was I foolish to call? Should I have ignored my intuition? How would I feel if there was afire, and there were fatalities, and I didn't call?

You did good Brian. To use an old cliche, Better safe than sorry, and in a case like this most definitely!!!! :D
 
I would appreciate a neighbor like you, Brian. Too many people look the other way.
 
You did the right thing. The fire department here always says to call first, then investigate further.

Steve
 
I sure would want somebody to call the Fire Dept if they thought my house was on fire. Good job Brian.

Ice
 
ABSOLUTELY the right thing!

I was in a fire at my home and it was a terrifying occurance! That house had a basement apartment and the tenant had one of these "torcherie"/torch floor lamps. Appropriately named.

My wife and I were asleep on the third floor of our house. Had to get down a flight of spiral stairs in the smoke-filled dark, then run outside. The main dwelling was not badly damaged except for smoke.

The apartment was totalled. Fortunately the tenant and his girlfriend got out unharmed. He had disbabled the smoke detector

Will pass on a few tips -- talked with the fire department.

1. Fall and crawl -- if the room you are in has a fire and smoke, drop to the floor and crawl. it will be cooler and less smoky there.

2. Before you open a door to another area, test the temperature of the door by placing the back of your hand on the doorknob. There may be a worse fire on the other side. If the knob is super hot, don't open the door. Also you won't damage your palm, that you may need to crawl to a window or try another door.

And get rid of any of those floor lamps with the hot bulbs. The wire feeding it can be too small to handle the load, and the lamp catch fire at the base. Even if it doesn't catch fire, it uses a lot of electricity and also adds to your airconditioning bill.
 
Firefighters would rather respond to false calls than to get a call too late to save lives...it's their nature.

I'd rather feel "foolish" than know that I could have helped save a life.

You done good Brian!

.
 
Steam leaks knocked out telephone service to downtown Youngstown, Ohio.

The PD was very relaxed about it. "Nice and quiet."

The FD went NUTS! Someone might have a fire and be unable to reach them!!! :eek: Calls every ten minutes: "Is it getting fixed?" Stationed units out in the streets. Put people on roofs with binocular to look for smoke. Damn! They really cared. They pressured the County Prosecutor to go after the politically-connected steam company to fix the %^@#! leaks.

Perhaps it's because they have a hope of "solving" a problem and the PD almost always is cleaning up after crime (if they can).
 
I spent five years serving with my local fire department-a good many resuces and a few sober recoveries-we were always glad to answer a call that turned out to not be an emergency. What you describe would have fooled me as well. You did the right thing.

john k
 
Just about every almost able bodied male in town is a member of the volunteer fire department here- same all over the Rocky Mt West in small town America. You did the right thing.


That said, I remember a Mad Magazine comic feature from the early 60's..... A little kitty got stuck in a tree. The frenzied boy was crying and upset. His mother called the Fire department. Strong male role models wearing impressive gear and a ladder truck showed up. They pulled the cat to safety. The boy was happy, his mother may have given one a peck on the cheek- I don't recall...but as everyone waved goodbye to the truck pulling away from the curb, the kitty jumped out of the boy's hands and stepping in front of the rear wheels...the boy watched in horror as the kitty, well; that was Mad in its hayday!


munk
 
I would've gotten closer for a better look first, and then knocked on the neighbor's door. If there was no response, then I'd call the fire department.
 
I've seen too many real fires to hesitate calling the FD. What you suggest wastes valuable time, in my experience. 2 minutes can make a huge difference in the outcome of a fire. The night the Bears won the Superbowl in 1985, we were celebrating and I suddenly noticed that odd yellow-orange glow outside. I looked out the front window and the 3-flat next door to that one across the street had flames shooting horizontally out a side window. I called 911. The tenants didn't, don't know why. Perhaps no phone yet - they had just moved in. Kids playing with matches in a room full of packing materials. It only took seconds. A baby died. It's not theoretical with me.
 
Silly Goose.

There's not even a question here. You did the exact, perfect, couldn't-be-righter thing. Celebrate your genius and instinct. Huzzah. Huzzah. Huzzah.

Chicago, for whatever its faults, has some of the best public protection services in the world. The Fire Department may be chief among them, no matter what the politics internally are.

The citizens can put up with a lot, but if the Fire Department, Police, and Streets and Sanitation don't perform, there's hell to pay. Just ask Mrs. Balandic(?nee Heather Morgan?) who married the mope, expecting to be queen of the city for life. All it took was one Chicago snowstorm, and Mayor-for-Life was out on his dorky duff.

Brian? Face it. You are good. Learn to deal with it.

Maybe next incarnation you can be a screw-up. (I'm gonna be a bully next time! And a dog-beater. And maybe a gigalo--but I gotta think more about that.)
 
munk said:
. . . That said, I remember a Mad Magazine comic feature from the early 60's..... A little kitty got stuck in a tree. The frenzied boy was crying and upset. His mother called the Fire department. Strong male role models wearing impressive gear and a ladder truck showed up. They pulled the cat to safety. The boy was happy, his mother may have given one a peck on the cheek- I don't recall...but as everyone waved goodbye to the truck pulling away from the curb, the kitty jumped out of the boy's hands and stepping in front of the rear wheels...the boy watched in horror as the kitty, well; that was Mad in its hayday!


I had that issue.

I honed my twisted, dry sense of humor on Mad Magazine as a kid in the late 50s and early 60s.

BruiseLeee still has me beat . . .

Noah
 
Today I took grass fires 1. part of the volunteer fire department deal one does in the rural West. I think of the 20 folks taking it I was quickest into the emergency shelter trial. For some reason, instead of my usual awardness, I was quick. Could be the half hour film on the fire capt who almost died with burns over 65 percent of his body...



munk
 
Great reaction. As you said, how horrible would you have felt if...

Yeah. Right on. :)

Nam
 
Bri in Chi said:
I've seen too many real fires to hesitate calling the FD. What you suggest wastes valuable time, in my experience. 2 minutes can make a huge difference in the outcome of a fire. The night the Bears won the Superbowl in 1985, we were celebrating and I suddenly noticed that odd yellow-orange glow outside. I looked out the front window and the 3-flat next door to that one across the street had flames shooting horizontally out a side window. I called 911. The tenants didn't, don't know why. Perhaps no phone yet - they had just moved in. Kids playing with matches in a room full of packing materials. It only took seconds. A baby died. It's not theoretical with me.

Well, I figure if it's small enough that I had to question if there was actually a fire, it wouldn't be the flame-shooting blaze you describe. And in that instance, even if it turned out to be a small fire, it'd be much quicker to just go there myself and knock on their door to alert them. Calling the FD and waiting for them to come and do the same thing would waste more time than doing it myself. (That's what they usually do at first, right? From what I've seen, Unless they see a fire, they don't just pick up the axes and tear down apartment doors. They just knock first to see if they're alright) Plus, if it wasn't a fire, I wouldn't create a spectacle of wailing sirens and fire trucks.

From my own place, when there's a flickering light, it's usually a light bulb going bad, or maybe I'm trying to have a romantic candle-lit night with the girlfriend. (Yeah, I'm cheesy).

Of course, if it was the scenario you describe in the above quote, where you saw flames and smoke, I'd call the FD without hesitation, because I'd be sure of a fire. To me anyways, just a flickering light by itself, without smoke/flames or sound seems much more likely to be one of the things above, and I'd take a second look before getting the fire department. At most, it'd be a small fire, in which case it'd be a lot quicker to alert them right away rather than calling waiting for the FD to do it. With the time save this way, we might even be able to control it or put it out before it got too large to control.

I didn't mean to belittle or anythin bad by what I had said, I just thought you were asking what we personally would've done, I didn't read the questions at the end of your post very carefully, I suppose. Sorry. In any case, you had good intentions and actually cared about your neighbors, which says something about your integrity.
 
Eric_425 said:
From my own place, when there's a flickering light, it's usually a light bulb going bad, or maybe I'm trying to have a romantic candle-lit night with the girlfriend. (Yeah, I'm cheesy).

A romantic candle-lit night without flaw may be memorable for a week, but one interrupted by the fire department; well, that'll last a lifetime.

Travis
 
Hamon said:
A romantic candle-lit night without flaw may be memorable for a week, but one interrupted by the fire department; well, that'll last a lifetime.

Travis

Heh heh... only if the firefighters bursting into our bedroom turned out to be the sexy female kind, wearing only a helment and little black bikinis, and only if the gf is feeling especially open-minded that night. :D
 
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