Family Camping, OMG!!

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Ok, I do apologize, but there are no pics in this post. I forgot the camera and my phone died long before we got there, but I wanted to share this weekends experience anyway. I promise pics next time.

A little backstory first. I broke my hand 7 weeks ago due to stupidity. I have my hand back now, but not all the way. This last week, I have teaching my daughters Shyann and Sierra, how to use a fire steel and build a fire from scratch. They are 8 and 5. Now the camping. . . . . .

We headed out after loading my Pathfinder to the gills with stuff :eek: for an overnighter in the Cherokee National Forest, I was trying to get to a spot that I camped at when I was a kid, only to find out it has all been bought and posted no trespassing. This is around 1400 acres by my estimate. So, we found a suitable location, Campsite 4B in the Citico Creek Area. Not really much of a site, but it has a good access to the woods, so there we are. We got to the campsite around 4pm, setup our tent :barf: fired up the grill for some steaks. At 4:40pm, I had a Ranger in the camp asking about where I got my wood for the fire, was I green cutting, $250 dollar fines, trash, where's your beer, etc. I was not green cutting, I was scavenging downed wood, blah, blah, blah, no beer, kids. Well after a 20min Health and Welness inspection, he was off. While all that was going on, my girls were building their fire ring. They collected rocks and arranged them, gathered wood, tender etc, everything I had shown them to do. On the way to the woods, I stopped and bought a bag of cotton balls for a buck. I gave them the CBs and told them to build to where it could be called a fire and let it go out, so you can do it all over again. They were in heaven. Moms getting camp set, kids are playing with fire, Dad heads to the woods to scavenge.

I find several downed Pine trees, but one inparticular, caught my attention. I dug around in it for a few secs and found the outer completely rotted, but a hard dense core about 2" in diameter. What would have been fatwood in a year, but not quite there yet. So, I backtrack to the stump where this big guy had been achored and paydirt, fatwood. Took a few pieces back, played around, dug the whole stump up and relocated it an area I could get back to later, for more harvesting.

About the hand. I wanted to get out and do a little truck camping to see how my hand was going to do. It done poorly. Batoning was real tough, chopping was out of the question, basic whittling and carving was doable, but with little to no fine control. All in all, I was one handed, and I am glad it was not a tough situation. I could manage all tasks, but I was wrought with pain for all of it, and could not really complete the task at hand. I did chop, I did baton, I did make a bow drill kit, I did strike steel, I did everything. Only it hurt and took about 3 times as long to do anything. Hand, Epic Fail.

Dinner and night falls, the kids fell out around 10pm, me and mama, around 11pm. We set everything for the night, and went to bed. Around 8am I hear the girls get up, chatting, the like. I checked in, how'd you sleep, you hungry, thirsty, gotta pee, No We're Fine was the reply. Ok, stay close to the tent, don't get into anything, I lay there massaging my aching hand for a min or two and must have dozed off again, because I woke to "AWWWWW RIGHT!!! WOOOHOOO!!!! YEA!!!!!!!"

I sat straight up, and the color of my usually white tent was a bright yellow and orange color. I throw my boots on and jump from the tent to see a 6' tall roaring fire in the fire pit. I flipped out on 'em. First from sheer fright, second from the fact that they disobeyed my primary fire law. See, I love to teach my kids all kinds of things, but there is usually a list of boundaries that go with each lesson. With fire, the FIRST and BIGGEST boundary is, no firecraft when Dad or Mom is not around. I am really anal about fire, I don't trust it, and I never turn my back on it. I taught my girls the same thing. So, I flipped out, shouted, and the like, took up their firesteels (I made them some cool paracord necklaces to keep them on) and they read them the riot act about making fire while unsupervised, and so on. I had to backtrack later, after I had cooled down, and observe what they had really just done.

They got up, got some juice, and some breakfast bars, went and collected, wood, tender, cleaned up the fire pit, setup their material just how I showed them, took a cotton ball (regular, no PJ), and made a daggone towering inferno. Neat and well contained. In 45 min. I had to tell 'em good job on the fire, but they lost their firesteels for a week, and were threatened with the dreaded Butt Busting (I have only had to do it twice, but it left an impression) should they make a fire without me or Mom there to supervise. Whew, my heart could have jumpstarted a station wagon when I saw that fire!! I laugh now, but the repercussions could have been devastating, I am glad no one got hurt, nothing was destroyed, because the did exactly as they had been taught to do, almost. I hope you have enjoyed the story, and I know, without pics it didn't happen. Moose
 
Good story buddy but NO BEER ? How can ya sit round a campfire eating steak without a cold beer in ya hand !!!!:eek:
 
Good story buddy but NO BEER ? How can ya sit round a campfire eating steak without a cold beer in ya hand !!!!:eek:

I don't drink while my kids are around. Not because I don't want them to see it, but because when I have my kids, I want to be all there, and I can't just drink a few:D, if ya know what I mean. Moose
 
I don't drink while my kids are around. Not because I don't want them to see it, but because when I have my kids, I want to be all there, and I can't just drink a few:D, if ya know what I mean. Moose

Yeah smart thinking !;)
 
Take it easy on the hand-it's a sloooooooooooooooow process. I busted mine up bad about two years ago and some mornings it's still so stiff I can't open/close it (depending how I fell asleep)
 
I raised two daughters.

Even without pics, it can happen.

Nice save. Even better when you backed down after 45 minutes.
 
COOL!!! :cool:

Now show them a blow log. Their lives (and yours) will never be the same!

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Good story. I think it's awesome that you teach your children the right way to do things, rather than forbidding said things outright. Many parents go the other route, usually to the child's detriment.
 
Good story. I think it's awesome that you teach your children the right way to do things, rather than forbidding said things outright. Many parents go the other route, usually to the child's detriment.

My wife and I decided before my oldest, Shyann was born, that we would protect our child(ren) from the world, but we wouldn't keep it from them. I was going to buy Shyann a knife for her birthday this year, but was talked out of it my the women in my life. Not because she isn't ready for one, I just couldn't find the right one, and was just going to get one to get one. I finally decided on a Spydie Ladybug, but after seeing it in person, I felt gyped on the price. I have now decided its going to be a Christmas Gift, and I'm going with either and Izula or ESKABAR in blue (jforsbush does them). I am getting a Lime Green ESKABAR and my little one, Sierra will get a pink Izula put up until she's ready. My Lady gets what she wants anyway, so who cares, right? Sierra also gets a new Daisy Buck Jr. as her sister already has a Red Ryder that she uses. We go out back in the yard and shoot about once a week, and the little one has a hard time with the RR. We were at SMKW and she saw a PINK Buck Jr. I had to pry it from her hands. Time and youth has made her forget about it, but I haven't, so there ya go.

The girls will get their firesteels back on Friday, as punishment was a week without them. I figure they got CBs down pat, so now its time to move to the hard stuff, dry weeds. Plus, I get free yard maintenance. I see no downside here. When Shy gets the Izula/ESKABAR for Christmas, then, the 1 stick fire training will commence. Best luck and wishes to all, and thanks. Moose
 
I wanted to reply to this yesterday when I read it but then didn't have time and had to go.

Once I got through laughing my @$$ off I looked over at Alayna and made a mental note not to just let her keep her own firesteel once I make hers lol.n I could so see her doing the same thing. She already helps me gather materials and feed the fire. She even pretends and makes her own fire lays, but I have been hesitant to actually teach her firecraft just yet, but I do suppose I should start on that pretty soon. She does understand that fire is hot and will burn, but that's about it at this point. I need to teach her more about area prep and safety practices. I think that is where I will start on our next outing...prepping the area and explaining why it is done.

That was a testament to your teaching bro. Granted they did disobey a very important rule, BUT, if you three are ever out and about in the cold months and you get injured at least they will be able to help a great deal. And if they ever manage to get lost they will know how to start a signal fire or stay warm.
 
nice story! i remember the first time i started a huge fire and got in trouble...it was the last time! :)

good to know other people are teaching the youths right.

so now that we know what the girls are getting, whats dad getting? :)
 
haha, your thread title made me think of a teen texting that to her friends, stuck in a tent with her annoying little brother farting on here. Cheers!
 
i busted up my wrist in a crash many years ago and pushed to get it back in service. i think i pushed it too much and have has occasional reminders of that ever since. i'd encourage you to not stress your recovering hand out, but let it heal.

son't think i've ever seen an "official" campsite that didn't have an official fire ring. was there no ring at this site, or were you building one for practice?
 
son't think i've ever seen an "official" campsite that didn't have an official fire ring. was there no ring at this site, or were you building one for practice?

I was letting them build their own fire ring. One of the main reasons why we went was to let them get some practice from start to finish. They picked the spot, built the ring, gathered wood to burn, found tinder, and they had the CBs and the firesteel. They built probably 8-9 fires from CBs to wood pieces the size of your finger. Then I told them let it burn out so they would see what it looked like dead, clean it up and start again. They were in heaven. The last fire of the night, I let them build it up and roast marshmellows over. When they were done, they checked to see if the fire was out, and off to bed. Main components used CBs, pine straw, various drop wood from the area. They don't have knives yet, so they broke up the wood into smaller pieces. All in all they done marvelous. I was a purdy proud Dad in the end, but not during, LOL. Moose
 
That would scare the hell out of anyone. I guess that is what kids are for though.

Great pick on the ladybug. Consider the Byrd Finch at all? I think the G-10 version would make an excellent starter knife.

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I decided I wanted to steer clear of a folder for her. I don't want it accidently getting clipped in a pocket or cell purse and taken to school. I want my girls to have the right tools, but the man won't let them carry everywhere. I remember going to middle school, carrying a Old Timer Sharkfinger, a Remington 220 Swift, and ammo and my field dressing gear (I was going hunting at a friends and I was riding home on his bus not mine) and all I had to do was check it in with the Priciple. He pulled the bolt open, made sure it was clear, said nice gun, pick it up on your way out today. It was like that all during deer season in West Texas. Kids bringing stuff to school, using the bus system to get to and from friends houses for hunting. There was a kid that got expelled from a school here for having a nail file that looked like a knife. WTF. Oh, well. Better safe than manicured. Moose
 
I was letting them build their own fire ring. One of the main reasons why we went was to let them get some practice from start to finish.

that's what i expected. i'm just surprised that Mister Ranger didn't give you crap for not using the official one. :rolleyes:

i'm not a fan of "official" campgrounds and would rather find some place alone and remote off a back road, which is what it sounds like you were trying to do to begin with. i don't need a mega RV pulling in at 1 am and firing up the generator or anyone poking their nose into my business.
 
that's what i expected. i'm just surprised that Mister Ranger didn't give you crap for not using the official one. :rolleyes:

i'm not a fan of "official" campgrounds and would rather find some place alone and remote off a back road, which is what it sounds like you were trying to do to begin with. i don't need a mega RV pulling in at 1 am and firing up the generator or anyone poking their nose into my business.

Same here. Citico Creek is "rustic" camping in some areas "modern" in others. I just wound up there 'cause I had struck out for the last 3 hrs finding a spot. I didn't know you could own private property in the National Forest, nor did I know you could own a hunting lease in a national forest. Shows how dumb I am. Moose
 
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