FAST DRAW the KHUKURI

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Hello to All:Well I'm going to try to explain how I draw the Kuk.PLEASE READ ALL BEFORE YOU START.
First;from now on every time you pull the knife from the scabbard you must be aware,of the feel on the back of the blade, as it slides against the back of the scabbard.To me it's like scraping the scabbard off of the khukuri,you'll see what I mean.
1)Put the Khukuri on your belt some where on or near your back pocket(if you go to the GORKHA GALLERY look at the pics you'll see how they wear it).
2)Listen to your Uncle Bill and stand sideways in font of a mirror and far enough away so you won't hit the thing when you draw.
3)Reach around and grab the handle and pull it toward the draw hand by twisting the belt loop.At this point the K is horizontal(parallel to the floor) with the back of the scabbard pressing against you.
4)Now with the feeling of scraping the scabbard off the K draw.Feel the back of the K slide against the back of the scabbard(THIS FEEL IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BE 100% SURE THAT THE EDGE IS NOT CUTTING OUT REMEMBER THIS ACTION IS OUT OF YOUR SIGHT BUT NOT OUT OF YOUR TOUCH)all the way to the tip.When the blade clears the scabbard drop the elbow and raise the K as if ready to chop.Look in the mirror the whole time.
5)Then slide the K back in feel the back of the blade slide.
OK THAT'S IT!
PLEASE GO SLOW
WHEN YOU FIRST TRY USE A 3 COUNT
1-grab K
2-twist sacabbard (K- hoizontal)
3-draw out to the ready
AFTER A SHORT TIME YOU CAN USE A 2 COUNT
1-grab the K twist the sacabbard
2-draw out to the ready
GOOD LUCK and BE CAREFULL

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Ray
 
Thanks, Ray. That was very clear.
Now, to practice, practice, practice.
Kukhuri Iado!


--Mike L.


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I can see the MA instructor creeping out.

If I can find some time this weekend I will dig out some pix of Ray and me at the SOF show. I think this was 1991.

Are you getting gray yet, Ray?

Many thanks for great info. And listen to Ray's advice -- BE CAREFUL!

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Blessings from the computer shack in Reno.

Uncle Bill
Himalayan Imports Website
Khukuri FAQ
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino:
I can see the MA instructor creeping out.

If I can find some time this weekend I will dig out some pix of Ray and me at the SOF show. I think this was 1991.

Are you getting gray yet, Ray?

Many thanks for great info. And listen to Ray's advice -- BE CAREFUL!
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OH yea gray I am and grayer I'll be.
I would like to seepics of us then.


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Ray
 
Ray.

Alhamdu-li-(A)llaah! A lot of thanks for your kindness to share your Khukuri Fast Draw Trick. Pakcik Bill did mentioned about that demo several times either in this BladeForums or previously in KnifeForums. I myself did remember your name from the 1st time your name being mentioned by Pakcik Bill.

Deep in my heart I wish that someday you personally will appear somewhere to tell us your very own version of that Khukuri Fast Draw Technique. I myself may not be good enough in performing that draw ... but now at least I know the theory ... and I can always tell my sons & my friends about it - so that this knowledge can be pass around for the benefit of all.

I feel very proud with Pakcik Bill, you Ray & all other forumites (it is a long list of names) who always willing to share knowledge & findings with others.

NEPAL HO!
 
Originally posted by mohd:
Ray.

Alhamdu-li-(A)llaah! A lot of thanks for your kindness to share your Khukuri Fast Draw Trick. Pakcik Bill did mentioned about that demo several times either in this BladeForums or previously in KnifeForums. I myself did remember your name from the 1st time your name being mentioned by Pakcik Bill.

Deep in my heart I wish that someday you personally will appear somewhere to tell us your very own version of that Khukuri Fast Draw Technique. I myself may not be good enough in performing that draw ... but now at least I know the theory ... and I can always tell my sons & my friends about it - so that this knowledge can be pass around for the benefit of all.

I feel very proud with Pakcik Bill, you Ray & all other forumites (it is a long list of names) who always willing to share knowledge & findings with others.

NEPAL HO!
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Hello mohd
Thank you for the kind words.
There will be a Video to clear up any questions and to refine the draw and cut.
Before I posted this I wrote it all out on a legal note pad(real paper that is not my computer note pad)and it was 10 pages long.Too much detail about grip and position of the upper body.This is by far a more simplified version.
I do think you can do this you have the khukuri so your half way there.




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Ray
 
As an Iaido fan (more enthusiasm than skill...) I've practised quick-drawing some of my khuks. Because of my chronic tendonitis I can't practice comfortably with a katana any more, but I can manage shorter, lighter blades such as the medium-length sirupatis.

It goes without saying that this kind of stunt is inherently dangerous, and you should never try and draw fast until you've thoroughly learned the move in slow motion, to the point where it's completely instinctive.

I start with the khuk lodged in a sash or belt, blade facing upwards, same as with a Japanese sword. I practice basically the same katas as I use for the katanas and wakizashis, except that the cuts are all made single-handed. My left hand stays behind my back, out of harm's way; I never have my left hand anywhere near the scabbard when I draw a khuk, fast or slow.

I've found the 20" village sirupati is the best khuk for fast draw. So long as you feel the spine out of the sheath, as the previous poster stressed, it'll draw in an almost straight line, and come into play for the first cut (slash on the draw stroke to throat or temples) extremely quickly.

I always remove the karda, chakma and frog before practising fast-draw.
 
Interesting...
As luck would have it, both of my HI khuks (GS and 20" Sirupati) came through with very snug sheaths. I have loosened them up to the point where a strong lad can tug the blade free, but further I don't wish to take the 'wedging' that's necessary. I did want to have a 'keeper' sheath for the knives, to use when I'm lazing on the deck or porch, 'just to have something with me'. I fashioned a loose sheath of light leather, cutting it in a butterfly shape of one piece of stock, and riveting/cementing the edge and lower back curve. It's in the style of a mountain man sheath. I suppose I could carry it across the back, edge down, and do a reverse draw, but it's not really a carrying sheath but rather some protection from that sharp edge while it's sitting beside me on the couch or night table. I take comfort in the story, read in the FAQ I think, of the guy who brained a leopard THROUGH the sheath. I'm sure my GS could do that, through my light leather creation. The quickest draw is no draw at all!
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Ken

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The sword cannot cut itself, the eye cannot see itself.
 
Thanks, Ray. Though it took full three seconds in "quick" drawing my 20" AK from the scabbard, it worked. I never imagined there could be a way to draw a khukuri by a single hand with such safety. For now for my AK, currently it seems reverse grip drawing seems easier than standard forward grip. Just guessed and tried if I can use the same drawing technique from scabbard in front of left pocket of my pants?

All the experience were nothing but pleasant.
I enjoyed it so much, as pain in my wrist, and shoulder tells.
Thanks again, Ray. And post the full detail to this forum, if you please. The way I tried might be quite wrong...


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Originally posted by WrongFriend:
Thanks, Ray. Though it took full three seconds in "quick" drawing my 20" AK from the scabbard, it worked. I never imagined there could be a way to draw a khukuri by a single hand with such safety. For now for my AK, currently it seems reverse grip drawing seems easier than standard forward grip. Just guessed and tried if I can use the same drawing technique from scabbard in front of left pocket of my pants?

All the experience were nothing but pleasant.
I enjoyed it so much, as pain in my wrist, and shoulder tells.
Thanks again, Ray. And post the full detail to this forum, if you please. The way I tried might be quite wrong...
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Good Day
If it come out smooth and safe then you are doing it right.There should be no strain and the K should feel like it pops out of the scabbard.Have fun.


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Ray
 
Ray,

Tried the quickdraw with my GS 19.5 inches.
Works great--I'm not too quick yet, but its a great way to get the khuk safely out one-handed (as Will said)! Thanks again.

Rob
 
Originally posted by MauiRob:
Ray,

Tried the quickdraw with my GS 19.5 inches.
Works great--I'm not too quick yet, but its a great way to get the khuk safely out one-handed (as Will said)! Thanks again.

Rob
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Hello Rob
Iam glade this could work for you.As for a fast draw I only did that at the SOF to attract attention to our table.This is just the way I normally carry and draw and I never think about speed ,I'm just working in the yard.Have fun.



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Ray
 
Ray.

Why did you choose 15" Sirupati for the demo? Is it because of certain special characteristics which only belong to that 15" Sirupati OR is it just an any Khukuri pick?

IMHO 15" Sirupati is the most slickest Khukuri among class of 15" ie. 15" AK, 15" BAS, 15" Sirupati & 15" Ganggaola. Spect wise 15" Sirupati is more a weapon than a tool.

NEPAL HO!
 
Originally posted by mohd:
Ray.

Why did you choose 15" Sirupati for the demo? Is it because of certain special characteristics which only belong to that 15" Sirupati OR is it just an any Khukuri pick?

IMHO 15" Sirupati is the most slickest Khukuri among class of 15" ie. 15" AK, 15" BAS, 15" Sirupati & 15" Ganggaola. Spect wise 15" Sirupati is more a weapon than a tool.

NEPAL HO!
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Hello mohd
I used different knives it really makes no diference.What ever you have is OK,just make sure the one you use goes in and out of the scabbard smooth and easy BEFORE you put it on your belt to draw from behined your back.
Like I have said before ,this is just a way to draw with one hand,do not worry about fast ,just take your time.
Yes,the Sirupati is more weapon then tool and because of the sleek blade it will draw smoother and swifter than others.

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Ray
 
Ray, thanks for the instructions there are very clear. This is similar to what John Powel describes the Gurkha's doing. Instead of pushing the back of the blade against the scabbard held by the other hand, you use your belt to provide tension. It seems to be an excellent way for single handed khukuri deployment. I’ll have to try it out with my practice khukuri. I bet most of your speed comes from practice.

Have you tried a cross draw with the khukuri? It naturally pushes the back of the blade against the scabbard similar to the way you described. I have a 15” Ang Khola reject that has very loose sheath that allows fast cross draws. It is not very impressive to watch as I am not very quick and everyone can see the knife at my side.

You had asked how I carry my khukuri. I don't use them as weapons so fast draw is not very important. I usually carry them in my backpack (with the tip sticking up so that it does not poke a hole in my pack) when I'm not expecting to use the khukuri, or when walking with others. When I'm alone I usually carry it in my hands (unsheathed) since I won't impale anyone if I fall. I find the khukuri's I like to be too heavy to carry on my belt unless I add more gear to offset the weight. Also, the khukuri’s tend to hit whatever I want to sit on before my butt does.

Will
 
I just found removing chakma and karda smoothes the latter half process of drawing ( I don't say it was quick drawing ). Not only in speed, there's another advantage of enhancing scabbard's life by less rubbing of the blade to the scabbard.

Practice, practice...

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Originally posted by WrongFriend:
I just found removing chakma and karda smoothes the latter half process of drawing ( I don't say it was quick drawing ). Not only in speed, there's another advantage of enhancing scabbard's life by less rubbing of the blade to the scabbard.

Practice, practice...
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Good morning.
Your right,I never keep the karda and chakma in the scabbard.I use Leatherman tool or Swiss Army knife anyway.


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Ray
 
I am very pleased to see those who tried the technique set forth by Ray were able to use it well. With practice most will come close to Ray's speed which as I said was enough to make every onlooker jump -- except me. Of course, after you watch something 100 times it gets to be routine and the jumping goes away. The first few times I was jumping myself!!!!

Remember, Ray is one of the best who has been there, done that, walked the walk and all that jazz. He won't say anything about this and may jump me for doing so but this is part of his credentials. He survived in Nam when about 9 out of 10 doing the same job didn't. His combat experiences in Nam were written about in Stars and Stripes and picked up by the wire services. When he suggests a method of shooting, drawing, cutting, stabbing, etc. etc. you can bank it is going to work and that the method will be a good one. I've watched him work, worked with him, listened to him, and I'd hire him on as a member of the team any day.

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Blessings from the computer shack in Reno.

Uncle Bill
Himalayan Imports Website
Khukuri FAQ
 
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