Fehrman Cold Fury

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Where can i learn more about Fehrman and about the Cold Fury model specifically? Google doesn't turn up much and i didn't see too much discussion here either...

Thanks
 
There's an article about Fehrman in the current issue of Tactical Knives. The Fehrman Blood Moon is on the cover.
 
The Cold Fury is a specifically designed combat knife.
If you re looking for a specific fighting knife in 3V, Fehrman knives and Jerry Hossom are the two premier makers in this arena.

Besides Fehrmans website, here is a link with info about Fehrman knives in general and a small blurb at the bottom about the Cold Fury in particular.

http://www.survival.com/hoodswoods/?page_id=167
 
Yes, but can Koster match the price of Fehrman's semi-customs?

I've heard only good things from people who own Fehrman knives. Virtuovice on youtube called his Fehrman "the best knife he had ever met" (Japanese is his first language). Knivesandstuff aka Kyley Harris also had a lot of good things to say about the Fehrmans he got, including it's resistance to developing a patina after cutting an onion. CPM-3V does tend to corrode via pitting, so I'd go with a powder coated Ferhman if you buy one.

The only negative thing I've ever read about Fehrman was on some knifetest website where the tester chopped it into concrete blocks and then complained of chipping. This website seemed heavily favored towards Busse and no one had signed their name to the test.
 
Once again someone parrots this line about pitting.
Do you have any experience with 3V?
Do you even own a 3V knife?

I have never read an actual owner, on this forum or any other, tell us how their uncoated 3V pitted, EVER.

I have read many 3V owners tell of leaving their uncoated 3V knives outside, or wet, overnight, with no staining at all. Many did this on purpose to test the myth.

This tells me a few things:

The pitting argument is more urban/Bladeforums legend than reality.
3V owners generally know how to take care of their knives.
3V is very stain resistant, for carbon steel.

It is much better than 1095, A2, or O1, and nobody complains about those steels.

You seem to defend the steel via other outlets. Why continue perpetuating the story line about pitting if you’ve never experienced it yourself?
 
According to Fehrman, their knives are not rust-resistant. I don't know if they do pit or not, but I care them with oil after every hard use. And nope, no sign of rust or pitting on my Fehrmans.
 
Because in Virtuovice's review video where he compares his Fehrman Peacemaker to the RC3, you can clearly see what look like pits. Either that or rust spots:

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Look at the 9:20 mark.

This combined with another discussion on this forum I was involved in, where people presented molecular diagrams showing exactly why and how 3v pits, and even a custom maker who used 3v (if I remember correctly) saying it could develop pits.

Non-stainless steels need to be maintained. If not they corrode. I believe 3V is just as good as, and better than some, other premium non-stainless steels. But if not properly taken care of it will corrode just like any other non-stainless steel. I would buy the powder coated version of any non-stainless steel fixed blade for that reason.
 
"To the best of my knowledge, CPM-3V has never changed in composition or process. It is in fact reasonably corrosion resistant, about the same as D2 in my experience. That said, it does pit badly when it rusts and the pits can be deep. I've not had a blade rust like tool steels will rust, developing an all over surface bloom. 3V usually develops spot that look like it has measles."

-Jerry Hossum, custom knifemaker who uses 3v

quote from: http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/813864/


This doesn't mean 3v isn't an excellent steel. That's just how it tends to corrode when it's not taken care of.
 
James0723 said:
Yes, but can Koster match the price of Fehrman's semi-customs?
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Maybe not match, but certainly very, very similar. I'm currently on Koster's list for a MUCK (My Ultimate Camp Knife). 6" blade of 3/16+ CPM3V with canvas micarta grips at 11-1/2" OAL for $265. The Last Chance Fehrman has a very slightly thicker 5.5" blade (very comparable knives) at $240, but Koster includes a sheath, which Fehrman charges $25 for, so the same $265 total.

I don't own a Fehrman, but they have a stellar reputation. You can't go wrong with one. But, they may not have exactly what you want, and Koster can make up anything within reason, and charges a very fair price for his work in 3V. I certainly think both are worth a look.
 
thank you blackmamba for the info on koster. it may become a situation of long wait for the ferhman since he is in movies now. if koster does as good a heat treat & performs as well ,we may need a viable alternative to get a super cutter.
 
James0723 said:
"To the best of my knowledge, CPM-3V has never changed in composition or process. It is in fact reasonably corrosion resistant, about the same as D2 in my experience. That said, it does pit badly when it rusts and the pits can be deep. I've not had a blade rust like tool steels will rust, developing an all over surface bloom. 3V usually develops spot that look like it has measles."

-Jerry Hossum, custom knifemaker who uses 3v

quote from: http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/813864/


This doesn't mean 3v isn't an excellent steel. That's just how it tends to corrode when it's not taken care of.
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I already knew what Jerry said about 3V several years ago, since it was me he was talking to in that thread. Thanks for enlightening me.

You should read ALL of Jerry Hossoms threads on this through the years. He also said that there may have been certain lots of CPM 3v that had impurities in it, which may have lead to this problem, that later lots do not have. It is my understanding that Jerry was testing the steel when this occured. In other words, he was trying to corrode it. This is far different than a casual owner experiencing the problem on a regular basis.

Jerry advocates oiling any and all carbon steel. When this is done, 3v suffers no pitting or corrosion problems.

I have had stainless dive knives pit. When they did, the edge literaly became serrated.

Yes I've seen the spots on the Youtube video. Looks like he didn't bother to oil his knife. He also isn't a forum member who talks about pits.

Yes, if you are lazy, you should by all means buy a coated knife. Of course if you are that lazy, you should stick with stainless, maybe even titanium.
But telling people to buy a coated version, on general principle, is very misleading when the vast majority of us have never had a problem with it.
 
Im going to order a Cold Fury tonight,I have wanted one for sometime now...I will post pics when I receive it. Also I have a Shadow Scout & Last Chance in satin I have never had any issues with rust, just clean and apply oil when your done using:thumbup:
 
bearcut,

Would lightly rubbing the blade with beeswax help avoid any rusting issues, while also giving one a greater latitude in cleaning?
 
i still do'nt see the rust .kdstrick left his last chance in wet grass all night --no rust. i chopped mesquite off & on saturday & left the blade sheathed till sun. afternoon ,washed the resin off ,posted a pic . look at the pic & see if you can find rust on edge.this same urban legend was attached to zdp. i cut onions & left blade unwashed for 7 hrs.--no patina. cut lemons with zdp --washed after 3 hrs. no patina.my 06 custom hunter [20 yrs,] has cleaned javelina & many whitetail --has patina no rust.i think some members need to wash their eyes.
 
DennisStrickland said:
i still do'nt see the rust .kdstrick left his last chance in wet grass all night --no rust. i chopped mesquite off & on saturday & left the blade sheathed till sun. afternoon ,washed the resin off ,posted a pic . look at the pic & see if you can find rust on edge.this same urban legend was attached to zdp. i cut onions & left blade unwashed for 7 hrs.--no patina. cut lemons with zdp --washed after 3 hrs. no patina.my 06 custom hunter [20 yrs,] has cleaned javelina & many whitetail --has patina no rust.i think some members need to wash their eyes.
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I agree, just take care of your knives/tools and you have nothing to worry about...
 
I've had a Koster bushcraft knife in 3V for a couple of years now....used pretty hard. It is my favorite straight knife bar none. I take pretty good care of my knives most of the time but I'll admit I've put my knife back in to its leather sheath wet a few times and forgot about it for a couple of days. I had a little bit of surface rust but never anything even close to pitting.

This isn't all rust....it is a combination of crud and rust....more crud than rust truth be told. It cleaned right up....not a pit to be found.

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