Fehrman Shawdow Scout

WILLIAM.M

WILLIAM.M

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Fehrman Shawdow Scout

I have a soon to be 12 year old son that wants one of those

Does anyone have one that can give me the heads up on it

Thanks in advance

Bill
 
Bill,
I have the Peace Maker, First Strike, Last Chance, and the Thru Hiker. My next purchace was going to be the one your son wants. That seems like a lot of knife for a 12 yr. old but if you have trained him well it will last him a life time!
Fehrman knives are outstanding knives and come razor sharp. The people there are also top notch to deal with.
Its just hard to only have just one Fehrman once you have tried one!! :cool: :thumbup:

Ciao
Ron
 
Never had the Shadow Scout, but I did have a Peace Maker, which is exactly the same knife with a four instead of six-inch blade. Fehrmans are very nicely made knives--fairly straightforward construction but very well fit and finished. Their edge geometry is among the best out there for factory fixed blades of this kind--plenty robust but taking advantage of the inherent toughness of the steel allowing for a fairly acute bevel. My suggestion would run towards the coated version--their satin finish is really kind of a fine bead blast. It's very attractive but 3V is not the most rust resistant steel in the world and has a nasty habit of pitting when it does rust. My PM was satin finished and ended up with a couple of fairly rough sections back in the tang from my hands. That wasn't the reason I got rid of it though; the handle is a good shape but was slightly on the small side for my medium-large hands, and my brother in law fell so in love with it that I let him have it. Were I buying again, I'd go for coated. The coating will wear off of the blade in not too long but should keep protecting the tang/spine for a long time.

3V is a steel that has an almost mythic reputation among some regarding its toughness. Having tried it both in knives by Fehrman and Siegle, I haven't found this to be an entirely accurate picture (although Bill's knives run a couple points higher HRC and seem to benefit from it). 5160 and L6 have proven tougher for me, but 3V is certainly no slouch and has excellent edge holding properties across a large spectrum of cutting uses. One word of advice--if he doesn't have some already, get your son some ceramic or diamond sharpeners along with his knife. 3V has high wear resistance/low machineability and sharpening with a traditional stone will be very slow-going.
 
those are the best answers I could ever hope to get

Thank you both "Muzzleup" and "t1mpani"-for taking the time to respond.

My son will not be allowed to take that knife out and Play with it--it will be with him while he is with me.

I have a used PM coming---

Thanks again both of you!!

Dr.Bill
 
Let us know what you and he think of it when it arrives. I seriously doubt you'll be disappointed. :thumbup:

Warren
 
Hey t1mpani,
I was just wondering if you feel the same way about a coating on your 5160or L6 blades that you reference as you do the 3V. Thanks.
 
My hands seem (sadly) to be on the acidic side when it comes to steels, so I usually like to have something between me and a non-stainless steel. I do have a number of uncoated blades in those two steels and 0-1 and others too, and I usually try to keep them well oiled up/waxed up in between uses. Sometimes I'll go ahead and darken the spine/tang area with a slice of potato to make the innevitable oxidation cover evenly. This is just a controlled rust process, much like bluing, and while it's not great it does provide some protection against furthur oxidation. Of those mentioned, 5160 is the least aggressive ruster, and even when it does I have very seldom seen in pit, although I'm sure prolonged salt water or blood contact would have that effect. L6 and O-1 tend to rust like crazy, but man I love those steels. :D

Principally it's a cosmetic consideration, although I feel that on a chopper--or any knife you're going to use long/hard--it's a bit of a health issue aswell. If you're getting blisters or other breaks in your skin as you work, and have a piece of rusted metal grinding against those spots... Call me paranoid, but having had tetanus once in my life, it's not an experience I'd repeat for any amount of prize money. ;)
 
Thanks t1mpani, that helps a lot. I love D2 and A-2 (I have both uncoated and have had no problems) but am looking at a knife in 5160 and was wondering if I should get it coated or not. I haven't had a knife in 5160 yet but I know it is a good tough steel for larger blades. I think I will take your advice and just have it coated.

Again, Thanks.
 
No problem--5160 is a great steel when it's done right. Another option is to coat the exposed steel with a very light film of Boiled linseed oil (Lowes, Home Depot, etc.) and let it dry hard for about ten hours. Forms a layer that's actually pretty tough, at least in terms of your hand/sweat removing it. Even if you go coated, it can be used to coat the blade after the coating wears off. The great thing is that it's very easy to reapply the oil it when it wears off, and it won't harm the finish of natural materials if you get some on it. If you were using your knife for food prep I'd go ahead and clean the oil off the blade beforehand--it's not horribly poisonous but commercial boiled linseed has metal hardeners in it to help it set up, and the bottles do mention that it's not for consumption.
 
What is the purpose of the knife?
I had a Shadow Scout, and my impressions were very favorable. The only downsides were that I wanted a camp knife that could do some light chopping and heavier splitting, but it was too light/neutrally balanced for chopping, plus came with a swedge, which I was not expecting, and didn't want on something I would be batoning with.
It was very handy, comfortable, good-looking, and extremely well made, but I felt like I would have been better off with the PeaceMaker as an all-around utility blade for the general stuff that a knife not suited for chopping would be more practical for.
The Shadow Scout, as an "in between" knife, kind of fell into a niche that I didn't really need filled. I suppose that was my own fault, knowing I would have been better served by a heavier knife. I had several, though, and wanted to give something different a try, "just to see".
Being a poor choice for my intended use aside, the knife itself was outstanding, IMO.
 
OwenM said:
What is the purpose of the knife?
I had a Shadow Scout, and my impressions were very favorable. The only downsides were that I wanted a camp knife that could do some light chopping and heavier splitting, but it was too light/neutrally balanced for chopping, plus came with a swedge, which I was not expecting, and didn't want on something I would be batoning with.
It was very handy, comfortable, good-looking, and extremely well made, but I felt like I would have been better off with the PeaceMaker as an all-around utility blade for the general stuff that a knife not suited for chopping would be more practical for.
The Shadow Scout, as an "in between" knife, kind of fell into a niche that I didn't really need filled. I suppose that was my own fault, knowing I would have been better served by a heavier knife. I had several, though, and wanted to give something different a try, "just to see".
Being a poor choice for my intended use aside, the knife itself was outstanding, IMO.
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I have a used PeaceMaker coming and will report my impressions when it arrives.

Your logic on the Shadow Scout makes perfect sense--I might just have to alter my selection

Thank you for taking the time to reply
 
t1mpani said:
Let us know what you and he think of it when it arrives. I seriously doubt you'll be disappointed. :thumbup:

Warren
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It arrived yesterday.Much better built than I expected.Fit,Finish and ergonomics are excellent.

It's perhaps 1/8-1/2" too short for my hand--but only in certain grips.

By far one of the BEST feeling small knives I've ever held.

Both of you were correct-these are GREAT knives.

Thanks again...

Dr.B
 
Thought I had subscribed to this thread but apparently hadn't---little late in my response but glad you're happy with it, though not surprised. :cool:

Any more thoughts on preferences for the other one?
 
Now you need to get a PM. I still think it's the most ergonomic knife in it's class, by head and shoulders.
 
I think that's what he got, Sodak--used PM for his own use. Think he's still deciding on which knife for his son.
 
Got the PM and traded it.It was an excellent feeling knife.I tested it against an Okuden Sharp Thing 2.It out cut it on every test.Did not need it.

Still looking for another Fehrman for my son
 
i have a ron hood designed hood hunter 10. you can see pics of it at his site survival.com

i think if you check with fehrman he might have a few left in the 8" size.

this is the fastest and most well built knife i own, highly recommend the design:thumbup:
 
I have the Peace Maker and Final Judgement. Do not doubt the quality of a Fehrman, they are outstanding. As to whether the Shadow Scout is what your son needs or maybe he just likes the name. I don't know your son, but personally, I'd start with the Peace Maker and see how he does with that before getting the larger blade. If he does outgrow the Peace Maker, get the Shadow Scout later and trade him. The Peace Maker is no toy and carries easily.
 
ras said:
I have the Peace Maker and Final Judgement. Do not doubt the quality of a Fehrman, they are outstanding. As to whether the Shadow Scout is what your son needs or maybe he just likes the name. I don't know your son, but personally, I'd start with the Peace Maker and see how he does with that before getting the larger blade. If he does outgrow the Peace Maker, get the Shadow Scout later and trade him. The Peace Maker is no toy and carries easily.
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SEE MY POST ABOVE YOURS
THANKS
 
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