Fiddleback inspired build out / restoration project (camp cleaver / pirate knife)

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Hey all,
I've been slowly tinkering with a long-term project of late; I was bequeathed a really neat turn of the century meat cleaver (this thing is huge) from my father-in law a while back; it was in bad shape when I received it, but it had been in his family for a long time, and for the last 33 years he has personally used it on a daily basis as a professional meat cutter.

I have pics forthcoming, but in the interim, I have been trying to identify its origin (knife has no makers marks, and was a "user" for probably about 50-100yrs); it appears to be stainless or highly stain resistant which was a relatively good thing, as the wood scales and brass corby bolts had all but rotted away. After removing said rotten scales, corby bolts, and giving her a thorough soak in barkeepers friend (followed by a trip to the scotchbrite wheel), I'm now officially down to bare metal on what equivocates out to be a >1/4" thick, 15" OAL full tang beast. Unfortunately, the project has been stagnating as of late due to life, work, etc... I'm pretty much just full of excuses, but after seeing the bog-oak kephart from this week's post, I had a half-cocked, fiddleback-driven epiphany that I was going to rebuild this meat cleaving monster from the ground up, looking to maintain 99% of its rustic, hard-use charm, but with a stabilized, ancient bog oak "fiddleback inspired" handle, nice brass corbys, and a ludicrously sharp edge :emot-yarr:!

As of this evening, I'm working to source my bog oak (Andy wasn't kidding; this stuff is EXPENSIVE) but it does come with a Russian certificate of authenticity ;)! I also spent some time trolling around jantz scoping out epoxies, corby bolts, liners, and a few other odds and ends. Furthermore, I've read Andy's tutorial on making handles (yes, one exists here: [url]http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/643123-Fiddleback-Handle-Tutorial?highlight=handle+tutorial[/URL])... Either this will be a completely awesome build out or an epic fail; only time will tell :D.

Anyways, if anyone else within our little community here tinkers with rebuilding / restoring knives, I'd appreciate your input / feedback. I'm quite handy and have some general crafty chops, but I've never really done anything like this before. My main concerns lie in sanding and shaping the handle; everything else I (think) I should be able to manage. I'll get some pics up in the next day or two... she's not much to look at right now, but its a WIP and might be a cool opportunity to get other member's feed back on my fiddleback inspired project.

Cheers,

Will
 
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Will,

That sounds like a cool project. I don't have any insight to give, but will be following along.
 
Will, I have an interest in old (100 or more years) cooking equipment. I have a buddy who is a dealer of old knives, when he has cool things I might like, he stops by. Over the past couple of years he has brought me 2 large cleavers, all without scales. One is definitely hand made, not professionally... I guess I meant homemade. I've found some really cool wood on eBay and got some loveless screws and gflex. I just need to get motivated to get started. Maybe this thread is the motivation I need! :)

-Will
 
Thanks guys -- I'll get pics up soon because as everyone knows "without pics this thread is useless" (lol a bit of internet humor!).

Will, sounds cool -- I cannot determine if this is homemade or not... might be as the lines are pretty crude but very well executed. The only thing that makes me think that it might have a bit more of a "polished" pedigree is that the hanging hook hole (?) on the end of the blade is nicely countersunk / hand rubbed... as stated above, pics will tell more, but if you get a chance please pass them on to your buddy as I would be interested in hearing his thoughts on the knife.

Cheers,

Will
 
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I sure will. He had lots of books on old knives and can usually figure out what make a knife is!
 
Hey Will, very cool project! Unfortunately I have no experiences with a project like this to help you, other than my life experience which is to say, never give up until it is finished to your satisfaction. This tool will be in your family for many generations to come, and it will have a very cool story to go along with it. One in which you have become an integral part.
 
Good luck with your project Will. I have no doubt that you will attack this project with the same shark-like intensity and focus that you have demonstrated around here. You don't give up when you have a plan. I really respect that in you.

Thanks for digging up the tutorial thread by Andy. I love the the look of the old-school Woodsman in that thread.

Keep us posted with photos as you progress.

Phil
 
Walt & Phil,
Thanks for the kind words & encouragement -- I'll be getting some pics up today and so it begins!
 
Hand rubbed at 180 grit -- very rough at this point, but gotta love the spine pic (especially for you batoning junkies!)

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Oh and BTW, its going to have bolsters as BurlSource only has pieces of bog oak <5 7/8"!
 
Hey Will. That thing is a monster! Awesome. I've put my own handles on about a dozen knives. I'd be happy to help if you have questions as you get started. I actually like the shaping/sanding of the handle the best. It's fun. It also gives you the opportunity to fit the handle to your hand. Totally custom.

Anyway, the project sounds great, and good luck.
 
Velosa,
Thanks for the support! Glad to hear others have undertaken similar tasks before; I'm pretty stoked about the whole project and am glad to hear that the handle rebuild will be fun as opposed to a PITA! I have very little experience working wood beyond basic projects, but, per Andy's old thread I am investing in some EZ Lap needle files and a few Nicholson "standards" to cover down for the project. If I get stuck (which I'm sure I will), I'll hit you up!

Thanks,

Will
 
Revival / update: after attempting to source >5" piece of ancient bog oak failed, I decided on some nice African Wenge wood! My cut & matched scales arrived today, courtesy of Burlsource (~$25 with a forum discount) -- I've included two potential pairings produced from the block I purchased; any thoughts on which has better figure would be appreciated (i.e. first or second pair). I plan on doing a natural canvas / white g10 stack-up beneath the wenge, and am now (attempting) to source 1/4" natural canvas pins. More updates coming shortly! :thumbup:

Pair #1
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Pair #2
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That's awesome, Will.
I haven't restored a knife, but I've re-handled all my Beckers, and have done a couple others, too. (After seeign Andy's work, I always use liners.) Done various woods and micartas. (2 are WIP at the moment.) I think that first set of Wenge will look awesome on your cleaver. Good luck with the micarta pins. Maybe Andy will tell you where he gets his... (Actually, I recently saw micarta pins at one of the usual knifemaker parts houses, but I don't recall which one, and didn't look up the sizes because it's not what I was looking for. Maybe it's called Garolite?)

My only advice in shaping scales is take it easy with the power tools, and take your time rasping and hand-sanding. It's a good bit more work, but they come out so much nicer when you lavish the time doing it by hand.
Good luck, and keep on posting!
 
Thanks for the feedback kp & tj!

@TJ: well noted on your advice; funny enough I don't have a lot of power tools so by virtue of necessity, this one will be by hand ;)
 
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