Fighting Knife

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Uh oh, I'm sure you guys haven't seen this question a million times before. This may not be the best topic for my first thread on this forum, but it's a topic that interests me. I'm a bit of a collector of survival/utility tools. I collect knives, axes, pry bars. I love getting into the really nitty gritty details about what makes a tool efficient and how certain characteristics balance their pros and cons against one another. I enjoy getting into the history behind the development and evolution behind certain designs. Out of all tools, I feels that the ones designed as fighting "weapons" have the richest and most interesting history.

No, I'm not going to be walking around trying to pick fights with ninjas or stirring up trouble in dark alley ways, but I'd like some input from someone who's been around these types of knives for much longer than I.

From the days when our ancestors survived using tools made from stone, to modern day materials and manufacturing processing and methods, it seems like the age old designs have more or less stayed the same. This seems a bit odd to me. Has there really been no change in the design of combat blades since WWII? Knuckle Duster Trench knives, Bayonets, Kabars, Fairbairn Sykes? Thankfully trench warfare no longer exists. Now we just need to get rid of all the other types as well, but has no one improved on those designs or devised one that's completely different? I always considered the cold steel taipan to be the most proficient design when it comes to "fighting" knives that are available on the market, but I feel like there's something better out there. I always considered an interesting and proficient fighting knife design to require a metal guard, synthetic handle, fully double edged blade, a wider tip that's less prone to breaking, a bit of a belly, some thickness and a high quality metal.

Giant wall of text almost over. What are your opinions on this topic? I currently own a non-serrated Kabar with the Kraton handle, Becker BK9 and a SOG Fixation Dagger, which I purchased after I learned of my interest in "fighting" blades. Like I said earlier, I just find them interesting and I like to discuss them, but I don't really know a lot about them. With that said, I'd call the SOG Fixation dagger a sub par design, at least for me.
 
I'd go with the Double Edge Cold Steel Chaos. Sounds like it meets all your criteria and then some.
 
That's an interesting one. I've actually never seen that before. I saw the tango version for the first time earlier today. I was surprised to see the knuckle ducted design. I'm about to watch their demo videos. I hope it's functional!
 
Spyderco Civilian could effortlessly shred tendons on an opponent that are necessary for him to continue to fight, even if only used defensively to block. But,if I had to go into a fight do the death with one knife that I currently own I'd take my Buck 650 Nighthawk.

 
My concern with a Chaos is just how big a hardon it would give a prosecutor in the jurisdiction of your choice.
 
The reason "fighting knives" haven't changed much recently is that knives are rarely used in combat. Modern military use of knives is mostly for general utility, food prep, and opening packaging. In fact, the same knives used for farm work and survival, camping, and hunting have always been used for military purposes.
 
And now, thanks to Google, I know that tl;dr means "too long, didn't read." I'm going to use that in the future.

And thanks to you, so do I. I assumed it was a typo. I'm going to use google in the future.
 
Trench warfare is where you find the most need dor an edged weapon. Knuckle knives and trenching tools were used a lot. Beyond that you get into knives specialized for a specific style of fighting. Daggers, kukhris, bowies, kerambits, etc. Nowadays military knives are designed more for utility than fighting.
 
Trench knives always seemed like the most sensible fighting knives to me. I've never been a fan of the Bowie knife. I can appreciate the experience of the man/men behind the blade's design, but I never found it appealing. I feel like a well made clip point can give you most of what a Bowie can, along with a few other perks to boot.
 
?..Like I said earlier, I just find them interesting and I like to discuss them, but I don't really know a lot about them. With that said, I'd call the SOG Fixation dagger a sub par design, at least for me.

hopefully you might be enriched ...
http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/archive_writing.htm
http://www.donrearic.com/covertweapons.html
Knife combat is not something folks relish.
martial training with edge tools is a way of life for some.
having said that, knives utilised in martial arts are continually being refined to the needs of the practitioners art form.
So knives really are tools to an end.
It's hard to explain to the uninitiated non knife person
why it's important to
fear the man, and not the tool :-)
 
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