Finally go to shoot a Saluki (Lukas Novotny) hybrid horn bow

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christcl

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Not my bow, but now I want one

I shoot Chinese Gao-Ying thumb ring style archery.

Thought I'd share. Its a beautiful new bow for my friend.

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I love that style bow, I have a horsebow as well that I had made and finished myself.
 
Very cool bow, I love that style. I have a good source for that style of bow. They make Mongolian variants as well. Let me know if you need any info cause I have a site with great prices. I am an archer too, mainly my Martin compound but I also have many arrows shot from my old Fred Bear Grizzly recurve.
 
Great! I figured people who are into khukuris will also be into traditional Asian composite bows.

I've got a full sized Manchurian bow on order or in the queue to be built in China right now, my friend Justin is the exclusive US importer and reseller for this bowyer in China, but thanks for the info!
 
Gorgeous Bow! Is it laminated wood/horn? Pardon my ignorance pls. Beats the heck out of my ol 1970's Ben Pearson in the beauty dept. :D
 
I believe so, a combination of laminated wood/horn/fiberglass/rawhide/sinew or any combination of the there mentioned...its not stated exactly what is in the hybrid type bows by Saluki, but Lukas Novotny's background is a glassblower/worker and is the most sought after horn bowyer in the world, I believe.

Lukas is an artist and will at times do what he thinks should be on a piece of his work even if the client didn't ask for it, and so my friend told me the bow had freebie extras and features he didn't ask for.

Its a great bow. Very smooth, no handshock after release. I think its about a #50/55 at my draw length of about 28" in the picture.
 
#50/55 is a real mans bow when you are talking horse bows. That thing is a power house @28in. I have a 31 inch draw and I be the weight goes up to 65/70lbs at that draw length. I love it!
 
Mine is a 60#@28" and it doesn't feel like it at all, but it kicks like a mule. I never lnew they did that forward recoil thing until i got one.
 
I've got a Grozer TRH Turkish 55# at 28", which I will sell to my friend when my #60 at 36" Manchu bow arrives later this year.

It was explained to me that war bows need to be in the higher poundages in order to have the energy to pierce increasingly armorored foes, otherwise it would just bounce off
 
you scared poppy when she read the tread title!
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i have told her that no salukis were harmed during the production of you postings. she has calmed down and no longer wants to bite you.

p.s. - love the bow. i have been known to occasionally use a bronze thumb ring. here shown while i held my 9c magyar sabre.
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I've got a Grozer TRH Turkish 55# at 28", which I will sell to my friend when my #60 at 36" Manchu bow arrives later this year.

It was explained to me that war bows need to be in the higher poundages in order to have the energy to pierce increasingly armorored foes, otherwise it would just bounce off
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That makes sense, I also remember reading that Mongol bows were a little lighter pull to aid in faster shots from horse back. I could be mistaken but I think they were between 45/55 @ around 28in. I know the Grozer's makes some powerhouses. Their 'Bear" model is like 75 @ 28... damn that's a lot of power.

36in pull.. damn that's long but judging by your picture you use a behind the ear hold. That will be a cool multi take bow because it can be used for fast shots at a shorter pull to the cheek. It probably around 50lbs @ 28 which is super cool because you can just draw to 36 if you need a power shot. Its probably harder to learn due to varying anchor points but not impossible.
 
Looked at the photo several times and finally it dawned on me that the arrow is on the wrong side of the bow.

Least wise based on everything I ever learned shooting bows. Mostly mine were compounds but the arrow rest or hand rest was always on the left side for a right handed person.

Is this not true for this type of bow or perhaps it doesn't really matter with this type?

Seems like the arrow would be unstable prior to and during the draw.

Just seeking enlightenment.
 
Most traditional Asian bows were shot with a thumbring and with the arrow resting on the hand on the right side.

I have seen left handed Korean archers rest the arrow on the left side but then their right hand was their bow hand while the left hand did the drawing correspondingly.

I'll let the pictures do the talking. All these archers I personally know and have trained or practice with. I hope to be good as they are some day!

My friend Jie in China who also practices and teaches Gaoying Chinese style.
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Master Heon Kim who practices Korean Kuk-gung
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Rick Beal Sensei, Kyudo Nanka Ryu
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Peter Dekker, Netherlands, expert in Manchu archery and martial studies
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Awesome pics man! I don't know if I could get use to drawing in past my ear. I have a 31in draw to the corner of my mouth. It must require a lot of training to fire that arrow without an anchor point for the string. I always have a "kiss" button in the corner of my mouth and the tip of my nose on the string. Pretty damn cool pics man!
 
Haha, thanks dude! Try it out sometime!

Most of us do have anchor points on the string, it helps with consistency. Also most experienced archers of the traditional style I've observed to have a cheek level draw, with some degree of variance to allow for differences in individual anatomy. After all, everyone's body is different.

36" draw for a Manchurian bow is going to take some getting used to. My friends I train under favor a much shorter draw at 27-28" with bows of the Han/Ming dynasty. I will most likely have to utilize the style Peter is demonstrating to better shoot such a bow.
 
Well there ya have it. If them guys put the arrow on the right side that must be the way it's done.

That Rick Beal sensei photo is insane. Never saw nothing like that before.
 
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