Finally got a 277

[kunegos]

After a long quest, I finally picked up an Alpha 277. It should be here early next week. I plan to switch scales and sheath with the 279 I already own, sell it, and recover most of the cost. Then, I will have a true hunting blade in ats-34 that can handle all the gross stuff. Just wanted to share with my fellow Buck lovers.

 

[DarrylS]

:thumbup: ...You're gonna love that 277 as you probably already know after having owned that 279 you're gonna sell. You may be doing it smarter than I did...LOL...After talking to a buncha folks here in the forum I also got my "FIRST" 277 some time back...then it was a "Final Production" 277...then it was a standard 279...then it was a "Walnut" handled 279...then it was a plain redwood handled 277...then it was another "Final Production" 277 that I couldn't pass up NIB for nearly the cost of shipping alone...LOL...Now I just have to find a "First Production" 277...Oh Lord...What evil workings in this forum are making me such a slave to BUCK KNIVES...LMAO...

 

[Pack Rat]

After a long quest, I finally picked up an Alpha 277. It should be here early next week. I plan to switch scales and sheath with the 279 I already own, sell it, and recover most of the cost. Then, I will have a true hunting blade in ats-34 that can handle all the gross stuff. Just wanted to share with my fellow Buck lovers.

Huh!!! What???? Sell a 279 just to recoup cost???? But, But, why???

You obviously aren't addicted to keeping them.......yet.....

Just yankin your chain.........

I did the same thing as you. But still have the 279. Just didn't figure it was worth the time and effort to try and recover cost. Besides. I have a couple of sons in law.... and some grand kids. The 279 will make a good pass-a-long one of these days without it costing a fortune in future dollars.

 

[kunegos]

Huh!!! What???? Sell a 279 just to recoup cost???? But, But, why???

You obviously aren't addicted to keeping them.......yet.....

Just yankin your chain.........

I did the same thing as you. But still have the 279. Just didn't figure it was worth the time and effort to try and recover cost. Besides. I have a couple of sons in law.... and some grand kids. The 279 will make a good pass-a-long one of these days without it costing a fortune in future dollars.

Well, its not for sale yet. Actually, I was thinking that a rosewood handled 279 might make a really nice Father's Day gift for pops. He's sure been good to me over the years.

On a different note, I am actually disappointed with the 277. I got it used, and I didn't realized until I compared it to the other one, that the blade has really been ground down. I don't mind a used blade, they will last longer than I will. But, this one has been ground down to the point that the edge is really thick, making it difficult to sharpen. I know ATS-34 is supposed to be harder to get sharp in the first place, but I think the thickness of the edge is really what is making this tough.

So my dilemma is this: I can sell it and just buy a new one, or I can send it in to Buck with the intention of buying a new blade. I don't think it would have much collector's value at this point, and I bought it to be used. I guess in the future I should be a little more leary of purchasing used knives.

 

[WilltheBarb]

Buck will sharpen the knife for a nominal fee and if they can’t get it back to useful they will replace the blade under warrantee. I think it would be worth it to send it to them. I would contact Joe Houser. He will definitely make it right.

 

[kunegos]

Yeah, I should probably get in touch with Joe and see what they can do with it. I really don't want to abuse the warranty, though. After all, the knife has not failed in any way, and it seems that someone else has really used, if not abused, it.

I feel like if they are going to replace the blade, they should not have to eat the cost just because someone else didn't take care of the knife.

Ironically, the rosewood handles show very little wear. It makes me wonder how this knife was being used.....

 

[rifon2]

If the seller didn't indicate that the blade was ground down to such an extent, perhaps you should contact the seller.

If it was misrepresented I think you should send it back for a refund.

 

[geothorn]

I really don't want to abuse the warranty, though.

That's why I always purchase new Buck Knives, because the 4Ever Warranty states:

All Buck Knives are warranted for the lifetime of the original purchaser against breakage or malfunction caused by defects in materials or workmanship.

The way that I read the 4Ever Warranty, it only applies to the original purchaser.

I'd see if you can send the knife back to the seller, as rifon2 suggested. The only way that your used Buck model 277 can be sent back to Buck for 4Ever Warranty repair is if the original purchaser, maybe the guy who sold it to you, sends it back to Buck.

GeoThorn

 

[chickentrax]

The way that I read the 4Ever Warranty, it only applies to the original purchaser.

The only way that your used Buck model 277 can be sent back to Buck for 4Ever Warranty repair is if the original purchaser, maybe the guy who sold it to you, sends it back to Buck.

GeoThorn

But, as you quoted -

All Buck Knives are warranted for the lifetime of the original purchaser against breakage or malfunction caused by defects in materials or workmanship.

A blade ground down with an auto body grinder doesn't qualify for warranty work, IMHO... :thumbdn:

...$.02...

 

[geothorn]

Thanks for including me in your post, chickentrax, but, I'm not the one who doesn't know the rules for Buck warranty repair work.

How can Buck Knives purchased through Ebay be eligible for Buck's 4Ever Warranty, if only the original purchaser is covered by the 4Ever Warranty...?

GeoThorn

 

[chickentrax]

...but, I'm not the one who doesn't know the rules for Buck warranty repair work...

Then it must be me...

[size=-2](Oh, well...I used to be one of the Kimberly-Clark/#1 Mill "Dummies In Action", years ago...It didn't matter if you were doing the job wrong, as long as you did it quickly...)[/size]

 

[geothorn]

I was just trying to gently point-out to kunegos that he isn't eligible to send the knife back to Buck because he bought it used. Sure, kunegos could send it back to Buck, but, because he wasn't the original purchaser, he cannot, honorably, send it back to Buck for warranty work, following the 4Ever Warranty.

I agree, putting a grinder to a Buck is abusing it. I think it says that in the 4Ever warranty, too:

What is Not Covered
Damage caused by misuse, abuse or failure to perform normal knife care and maintenance; damage from self repair; machine sharpening; knife loss, including shipping to and from Buck factory; transportation charges to Buck. Abuse, misuse, dismantling or tampering with your knife, or sharpening your knife on a power-driven grinding wheel voids your warranty coverage. For repairs not covered by warranty, please see Knife Care & Repair.

(Text emboldened by geothorn)

Personally, I think that the person that sold that heavily-ground Buck to kunegos should get it returned to him, give kunegos his money back, and then the seller can try sending it in to Buck for repair, blade replacement, whatever.

But, I think that Buck should just toss the abused 277 into the trash, and send the seller a letter saying: "The way that you abuse a fine Buck knife, we wish that you wouldn't buy any more...." Seeing an unscrupulous seller take advantage of kunegos, a really nice Buck 277, and potentially, Buck's 4Ever Warranty, well, it ticks me off!

I didn't mean to bite your head off, Trax.

I've never needed to send a Buck back for repair, warranty or otherwise, and I don't think that I ever will. Yes, a Buck knife is a tool, and it's meant to be used, but, if you want to keep something operating at it's best, you just don't abuse it, whether it's a knife, or your dog, or whatever. When I see a product with a lifetime warranty, it says to me that the manufacturer fully believes that its product can and should last for it's owners lifetime, if the product's instructions are followed, regarding maintenance and assiduously avoiding what is considered "abuse."

However, I appreciate Buck and it's products enough not to abuse either of them...and that seller treating a Buck knife that way, and taking advantage of kunegos...! Some folks seem to be jerks when there isn't any necessity to be that way....

Kunegos, I hope that you can get your money back, from that Buck knife abuser!

OK, I've gotten that out.

GeoThorn

 

[Deep6Osama]

I was just trying to gently point-out to kunegos that he isn't eligible to send the knife back to Buck because he bought it used. Sure, kunegos could send it back to Buck, but, because he wasn't the original purchaser, he cannot, honorably, send it back to Buck for warranty work, following the 4Ever Warranty.

I agree, putting a grinder to a Buck is abusing it. I think it says that in the 4Ever warranty, too:
Personally, I think that the person that sold that heavily-ground Buck to kunegos should get it returned to him, give kunegos his money back, and then the seller can try sending it in to Buck for repair, blade replacement, whatever.

But, I think that Buck should just toss the abused 277 into the trash, and send the seller a letter saying: "The way that you abuse a fine Buck knife, we wish that you wouldn't buy any more...." Seeing an unscrupulous seller take advantage of kunegos, a really nice Buck 277, and potentially, Buck's 4Ever Warranty, well, it ticks me off!

I didn't mean to bite your head off, Trax.

I've never needed to send a Buck back for repair, warranty or otherwise, and I don't think that I ever will. Yes, a Buck knife is a tool, and it's meant to be used, but, if you want to keep something operating at it's best, you just don't abuse it, whether it's a knife, or your dog, or whatever. When I see a product with a lifetime warranty, it says to me that the manufacturer fully believes that its product can and should last for it's owners lifetime, if the product's instructions are followed, regarding maintenance and assiduously avoiding what is considered "abuse."

However, I appreciate Buck and it's products enough not to abuse either of them...and that seller treating a Buck knife that way, and taking advantage of kunegos...! Some folks seem to be jerks when there isn't any necessity to be that way....

Kunegos, I hope that you can get your money back, from that Buck knife abuser!

OK, I've gotten that out.

GeoThorn

A little less coffee maybe!

 

[kunegos]

In defense of the seller, the knife was advertised as "used." There is no evidence of it being on a grinder or anything like that. It just seems to be a little strange that in 2 years of use he had to sharpen it that much. But who knows, maybe he was an outfitter or something.

Also, I hope I haven't exaggerated the wear on the knife. Someone who did not have another Alpha to compare may never have noticed. I am just somewhat of a sharpening fanatic, and like them to be as razor-like as possible. Also, the 279 I have is a newer model, so perhaps the blade profile has been tweaked over the years. The grind on the 279 is much more consistent than the 277. I have not tried to use the knife in the field yet, so it might perform fine for years to come.

If it does not, could I send it back to Buck, not for warranty work, but simply for a replacement blade? It seems like I should be able to buy a replacement blade for a 277 since people do it with 110's. Then, I would have my handle & washers from the 279, a new 277 blade, which means 1 whole new knife purchased by me, and the comfort of a Buck warranty (which I never anticipate I'll need).