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cybrok

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I want to try Kali since I got on these forums 2 years ago.

Now I have a student job in a city where I can practice Kali. Inosanto LaCoste to be more specific.

Unfortunately there is only one hour a week of Kali at this school and it's expensive. But it's better than nothing.

Maybe if I train enough I will forget that for the next 4 months I will be living in a crappy room...
 
Look on the bright side. Maybe you`ll meet someone in the class who`d like to get in someextrapracticeoutside of class, and you can meet a couple times a week.

As for the crappy room, good food always makes everyplace seem nicer.
 
Thanks but the kitchen in the house I live is even crappier than the room :o

Everything you normally have in your bathroom is in the kitchen.
Toothbrush and shaving cream around the sink. Everything else on the microwave.

I hate this place :(
 
cybrok said:
I hate this place :(
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Living in crappy accommodations is what being a student is all about! Trust me, (this is the Voice of Experience talking) when the day comes that you are living in a nice place, you will appreciate it all the more for having lived in a dump. In time, you will brag about the crappy places you've lived. I expect there are quite a few of us who can tell stories of cockroaches, rodent droppings, dripping ceilings and rotting walls.

Besides, it will give you a reason to throw yourself into your training and studies. Martial arts and school was my way of taking my mind off of the cockroaches, rodent droppings, dripping ceilings and rotting walls.

Study. Train. Holy crap, when did I turn into my dad?
 
I will try to get some sticks soon.

How much should I expect to pay for decent sticks? What would you guys recommend for length/wood?

Marco the Kali noob :)
 
i use rattan. cheap, easy to work.

you can get precut from bloodsport.com or order 9' +/- staves (1" for sticks) from:


http://www.caningshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RAT&Category_Code=

http://www.hhperkins.com/products/rattan_swords/


i've ordered staves from both places with good results. then i cut them with a hacksaw, round off the edges with a small rasp and flame harden them on the stove top or with a small propane torch.

i cut mine to 21-22", basically my armpit to wrist. another measure is elbow to elbow with your fists together in front of you.

Nick at Bloodsport.com is great to do business with, but i'd never pay someone to make rattan sticks for me.
 
Rattan is the way to go. I like my sticks at 70cm, some people go shorter but when you're new being a little long doesnt hurt, keeps you from getting sloppy.
 
Second lesson tonight. Interresting.

Before I got here and started kali, I practiced Ninjutsu for a few months (I'm in this city for the next 4 months, then back to my town and ninjutsu).

From my point of view, there are similarities between the 2.

As stated by some, they don't appear to be for competition but really as martial arts.

Tonight we saw a way to counter a knife attack. I have to saw the arm work is really similar to the omote gyaku I learned in ninjutsu. Of course in this case you face a blade so the movements of the body is slightly different, but the grab is the same.

Interresting.
 
cybrok said:
Second lesson tonight. Interresting.

Before I got here and started kali, I practiced Ninjutsu for a few months (I'm in this city for the next 4 months, then back to my town and ninjutsu).

From my point of view, there are similarities between the 2.

As stated by some, they don't appear to be for competition but really as martial arts.

Tonight we saw a way to counter a knife attack. I have to saw the arm work is really similar to the omote gyaku I learned in ninjutsu. Of course in this case you face a blade so the movements of the body is slightly different, but the grab is the same.

Interresting.
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I think regardless of what you study, you have to practice it under stress, or it is useless. That is in regards to self defense. Just because something is for competition doesn't mean it is useless: boxing, judo, and muay thai are fine examples.

I am starting to learn kali as well, by way of Yuli Romo's student, Michael Blackgrave, in San Antonio.

I stopped by today, and looked at the class for 10 mins. All I really needed, plus I got a chance to talk to him. Really nice guy. Warrior.

I think weapons-based arts are good because of being able to protect yourself with the inherent lethality of weapons.

What sort of kali are you doing? What kind of curriculum do they have?

Ba'had Zu'bu kali Ilustrisimo teaches the combinations of blade and blade, blade and stick, flexible weapons, and empty hand. Guro Blackgrave also includes silat and projectile weapons.

Myself, I am interested in improvised weapons and empty hand as much as the intended weapons.
 
It's Inosanto's system.

But it is a little weird, there is silat and kuntaw in the name of the class and a flyer in a corner of the school says Petiki Tirsia.

But I wanted to try Kali for years and now I have the chance to, so I'm not really picky about the style.
 
I was in Irvine, CA for awhile. I got to check out Dan Sullivan's shop-- the kali and silat are advertised together.

Maybe someone can answer this, but I think besides distinct clothing and a preference for one set of weapons over another, how might you tell the difference (in action) between kali and silat?
 
Kukri.....I personally believe that there are more similarities as opposed to differences in the aforementioned methodologies. Where others see technique or pattern I simply see movement with intent, and there in may lie the difference. I have studied both methodologies and teach them in unison, giving credit of course to where it comes from and by whom I learned it.

When one talks about difference in action you have to ask yourself in what context are you referring to??? Are we speaking in weaponry, pukulan, multiple opponent, kebangan, sport variation..etc.

Silat and Kali are merely cover words, under each you have hundreds and in the case of Silat you have thousands that use this moniker with different views and ways. Some advocate beladiri while others kebangan, some are pukulan oriented where others are controlling/lock based, some are sport based. Within each method there is good and bad just as in FMA...it is up to you the individual to learn what works best for you by someone who has the ability to transfer his knowledge to you.

From there an individual must absorb the teachings in a way that is plausible with his needs and desires. BaHad Zu'Bu is such a system, it entails both Silat and FMA as taught by Master Yuli as well as myself. We do not see the methods as different, rather same/same with emphasis on simplicity and intent, outside of that what else is there? Within those tenants lies your Adat & Hormat as well your cultural aspects (a subject sorely neglected but needed).

So in closing I would suggest simply training and absorbing rather than looking for differences. In my reality and in the reality of BaHad Zu'Bu they are both good, the key lies in your intent and your desire to make the knowledge part of your human nature.

Salamat

PG Michael B
BaHad ZuBu
SATX...Western HQ
 
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