Fire in the rain

koa

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Today it was raining all day long so what better time to go out and practice making a one stick fire in the rain using a firesteel (the only tinder used was that which came from my wrist thick piece of wood). I have done this twice before successfully but have never felt very confident about it and last week when I was doing it Terry Barney was standing over my shoulder yelling at me because I forgot everything he taught me!

Firecraft is a perishable skill as I have learned. It is also a skill that cannot be mastered by completing a task once or twice. Making fire in actual rain is much different than using wet wood after a rain. If anyone thinks they are in good shape because they can throw a log in the creek and make a fire out of it they are mistaken although that's not an easy task either.

To prove it was raining:

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Here is my chosen tree, a hedge, dead and off the ground:

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My prep, it was just enough but I should have had much much more:

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Prep was protected from the falling rain by Hickory bark while I worked (The knife from River Bottom Blades):

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We have fire!

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Making the reward:

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Today I felt good about how I did, I got the fire going first try and it never went out. I still need a lot more practice though. My prep like I said was adequate but would not have left any room for failure so next time I need much more and another piece of Hickory bark for cover would have been helpful. Oh, and making fire in the cold rain while soaking wet makes things much more difficult, this is NOT like making a fire in normal conditions. Go out there and try it, you won't be disappointed with the skills you build. For those that have done it I salute you.
 
I intended to do this yesterday but it quit raining as I went into the woods. We stopped and fired up the twig stove using cedar bark (as a spark catcher) and twigs for fuel. If it had started raining, we would have crawled back into the little cave in the background to get things going perhaps.

My son (budding pyro) was with me so we made a few other fires (4 total) using the 1 stick method. Actually we used the same stick to make 3 sustainable fires. This cedar is not fat wood but it still feels like cheating (in spite of using the wettest stick I could find partially buried in the wet leaves). Once it is split and reduced, you are home free!

Edit to clarify, I am not insinuating that fat wood is "cheating". I mean to say that if you are trying to do the one stick method in wet conditions, using a stick of pure fat wood would not be the deepest test of your skills and the cedar we have around here is perhaps not the greatest challenge either (or may be I have just figured out the tricks for this particular fuel;))
 

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Great Job, Koa. Taking the time to go out and make split some sticks and then shave them into some shavings and then start a fire while in the rain is good training.

Bryan
 
I understand what you are saying unit. Cedar is a very good wood to use with the one stick method. If you make everything you need from cedar it's definitely not cheating. Fatwood is great but I don't have it here and I certainly wouldn't want to depend on it as a sole method of making fire in my situation. When you need a fire you use what you got but I'm trying to prepare for the times when I don't have much. Anywhere you'd hope to make a fire the one common denominator is wood. If you got wood you can have a fire. Add a little rain to the one stick method and you have yourself a real challenge, certainly with only 3 successful (one stick) fires in active rain I am not an expert.
 
The very few times I have ever failed to achieve fire has been either during a heavy rain or heavy wet snow. Good job.
 
Nicely done, sustained fire during rain is challenging even using accelerants. Fire starting skills become less perishable once done to the point of muscle memory.
 
I understand what you are saying unit.

Yeah, well...I went back out today and started to think I jinxed myself by bragging about being able to succeed with ease with cedar.

There was a little more moisture in the air today, and I was down wind of a large body of water. I succeeded, but I sure did not feel as ready to brag about how easy it is to get fire with cedar bark afterward. The one-stick method farther away from the shore line proved much easier though.

I still want to get out and try it in the rain (or a wet snow) at some point. As I said, it was the plan yesterday, but the mother nature decided I needed more remedial training first;)
 
Mother nature will do that to you unit, personally I think failures teach you more than success. Whenever I get cocky mother nature gives me a slap across the head, she will always be stronger than me.
 
Mother nature will do that to you unit, personally I think failures teach you more than success. Whenever I get cocky mother nature gives me a slap across the head, she will always be stronger than me.

Failures teach us how to succeed, successes only seem to teach me how to brag;)

You type some wise words there koa! A slap across the head is minor compared to some of the backside kicks I have received from Mother Nature;) What really hurts is when I can figure out what the failure taught me:D
 
Mother nature will do that to you unit, personally I think failures teach you more than success. Whenever I get cocky mother nature gives me a slap across the head, she will always be stronger than me.

Failure taught me to carry an acellerant always, whether needed or not. Developing the skill to use only found tender and kindling is great. You won't develop that skill further if you fail in extreme circumstances and secumb to hypothermia.
 
Great post! Absolutely one of the most basics tasks that cannot be practiced enough. When I do this using only natural tinder's found in the immediate area, it seems I can get a fire going easily one day, and do so in the worst conditions, and the next day with sunny skies, I fail miserably. Finding materials that will take a spark seems to be the thing I need to continue to explore.
In my opinion, this can't be practiced enough using flint & steel, ferro rod or friction methods. (don't rely on a lighter) Doesn't matter what season it is or what type of precipitation your encountering, it is the most important skill you need.

I recall someone posted a YT video of Les Stroud failing to get a fire lit. I think it was a few hours of effort but edited down to just a few minutes for TV. Even the pro's have problems with this skill.
 
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I can think back to last Fall and i failed to get a fire going. It was windy and a wet snow was falling like mad after a week-long rain. I was so frustrated i could eat nails!!! I broke down and used a Bic to get my Kelly Kettle rolling. Even muscle-memory fails if the brain ain't tracking!
 
Yes it is, the tree with too many names.

Maclura pomifera-Osage Orange-Hedge-Bois D'arc-Bodark
 
Good stuff. I used lighter fluid one day in a rainstorm. Worked well. And any details on the knife?
 
Interesting thread indeed. I have started ferro\local material fires on many occasions in different weather, But no, not in the pouring rain. There is always more to learn I guess. My personal challenge is that I insist on using local natural materials. But if I'm in trouble or my skill level is not high enough I always have my traditional materials emergency kits as a back up. I need rain practice and have had a bit of a rough go simply with rain soaked natural materials.
 
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