First Aid Kit Q.

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I'm thinking about picking up an M-3 kit from Cheaper Than Dirt and was wondering if anyone had in well received information about buying one of these vs. building one of my own. Which is better insofar as $?

This is going into my Jeep along with some added Celox. "B.P."... you know.
 
I don't know what is in those specifically, but I'm a proponent of building your own. I think it's important to know exactly what is in your kit and why, and to choose the best components when necessary. You will also usually have spares of most items when you buy your own, for use around the home or in another kit. A trip to Walmart/Meijer will usually ensure you have a pretty complete kit.
 
Build your own after you learn what should go into a kit designed for what you require.

Skam
 
build your own and add extra items that get used a lot:

- 4 x 4 gauze pads
- 6 x 10 stomach pads (work great for large bleeders)
- roll gauze 2", 4", 6",
- 3m transpore tape

etc
 
A few non standard items for the ole aid kit off the top o me hed;
bic lighter
sewing needles
thimble
travel-packed dental floss
tiny flashlight
tweezers
scissors
nitrile gloves
chemical heat pads
maxi pads
tampons
non lubricated condoms
a big velcro strap with a friction tightening buckle or ladderlock, (tourniquet)
aspirin
ibuprofen
tylenol
tea
candies
notepad
pencil
garbage bag
space blanket
ziplock bags
aluminum foil
99% isopropyl in a little bottle
magnet
magnifying glass
syringe
 
A few non standard items for the ole aid kit off the top o me hed;
bic lighter
sewing needles
thimble
travel-packed dental floss
tiny flashlight
tweezers
scissors
nitrile gloves
chemical heat pads
maxi pads
tampons
non lubricated condoms
a big velcro strap with a friction tightening buckle or ladderlock, (tourniquet)
aspirin
ibuprofen
tylenol
tea
candies
notepad
pencil
garbage bag
space blanket
ziplock bags
aluminum foil
99% isopropyl in a little bottle
magnet
magnifying glass
syringe

I prefer to keep a repair kit or survival kit separate from a FA kit. Less clutter to fumble through.


Nitrile gloves should be standard equipment for every kit.

Skam
 
There's a lot of good stuff to be found in those cheap Wal*Mart kits if you're looking for a basic kit; I got the Johnson & Johnson one, and added/took out what I needed. Most of the items I pack go into one of two categories: general first aid or trauma stuff. The general first aid would be covered greatly by a pre-packed kit like the one I got: you got your variety band-aids, single-use diarrhea/fever reducers/pain killer pills, and antiseptic wipes, dressings, etc. I usually add more 4 x 4 sponges and gauze rolls. +1 for the transpore tape, the stuff is great and much better than what usually comes in a pre-packed kit.

For trauma bags, I build it myself. I pre-pack everything and label it with a marker; this is where my vacuum food sealer gets a workout! I'll pack a gauze roll with two 4 x 4's and a couple antiseptic wipes and label it as an abrasion kit, or an abd pad, 4 x 4's, butterfly sutures, and wipes to form a lac kit. I do this so I can leave a pack with someone if they only need to patch themselves and, more importantly, keeps the other stuff clean & sterile if my gloves are bloody.

The main thing is to keep it practical; I see some people waste a ton of space packing a BVM where a pocket mask would suffice. Also, Lorien has a lot of good things on his list, but for me, personally, most of those items are packed in my B.O.B.

*EDIT* I just saw what Skammer wrote, +1 for the gloves; I keep mine at the top of my kit so it's the first thing I grab...never know what's out there these days! I worry more about hep and MRSA than HIV/AIDS...
 
Hey, doesn't matter where the stuff is packed, just so long as you have what you need:thumbup:when you need it!
 
Hey, doesn't matter where the stuff is packed, just so long as you have what you need:thumbup:when you need it!

It matters if you need it quick and cant find it.

Organized to some extend its better.

Skam
 
P.S. I love saving weight, but I'm also a firm believer in reasonable redundancy. That's a balance I think most of us figure out for ourselves given our pursuits.
 
I find my first aid kit to be the most used items in my survival kit, besides the knife,compass, flashlight

dont forget extra bandaids for blisters
 
Use a small kit from Adventure Medical and then added meds, Neosporin, tick tweezers, etc. I do rely on stuff like bandanas and duct tape to supplement my first aid kit. 99% of my first aid kit use is blister care, splinters, and basic boo-boos that just need a bandaid.

There are travel and sample size vendors on the Web that are good sources for stuff like pre-packaged bug repellent, sunscreen, anti-biotic creams and hotel-freebie style sewing kits. I had a hard time finding foil packets of Neosporin and hydrocortisone in a drug store and the travel-size outfits have all kinds of stuff like that.

http://www.minimus.biz/ <---- I've used this one and they did a good job.
 
Thanx for all the great information guys!! Now I'll have a fun Saturday project to put together.:) I'll start with a basic kit, a good kit bag, and also order from minimus.biz for the individual packets.

Where does one buy sutures and sterilized needles in packets/kit?
 
I recommend superglue instead.

I recommend a first aid course that will explain why closing a wound in any fashion could be lethal. That said with the right skills wound closing is a good skill to have.

Skam
 
Actually I'm learning from 2 old doctors I've hunted with since I was 6. Aren't old family friends the best kind?:)

That aside I actually did find a great starting point at wal-barf in the sporting goods section. It's the 201 piece kit. It's getting transferred/organized into an inexpensive waterproofed German mil. flecktar bag I have. There's lots of room in the plastic case it came in but those things crack from a hard "bounce".

About the sutures, not really needed with the Celox.
 
I recommend a first aid course that will explain why closing a wound in any fashion could be lethal. That said with the right skills wound closing is a good skill to have.

Skam

I should've been more clear, that my comment wasn't directed at you, but at home stitching. I know a doctor who uses superglue on himself and his family, so I naturally just follow suit. I imagine that the problem here would be the glue somehow sealing in an infection that the body would otherwise more easily reject?
 
Well, of course, that's why there is packing, then debriding and closure. I recently had a hand wound that was presribed, uhm, how can I put this, "the cream of pain". I managed to take a knuckle top off and the acidic cream stimulated tissue growth over the knuckle. A chemical debridement for a clean running wound. Aah, here it is, Allanzyme 650 ointment. Papaiin and a 10% Urea cream. All I can say is that it worked, no fun, but it worked....That was a 1/2" circle from the top of my index fingler knucke. Ooooo, tendons sliding...:P
 
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