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First Holster and other "and such"

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Spent some time over the holidays working on some leather projects.
I have been wanting to make a holster now for a while and finally sat down and took the time to get it done.
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I also spent some time making a few pieces for a show I plan on doing in a couple weeks.
Rifle slings
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Checkbook covers
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Our dog Shadow showing off his new collar, complete with shotgun shell bling.
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My wife has been trying to get me to leave the two tone look from the edge groove and beveling for a while now. Finally left something like that with the collars.

Thanks for looking
Chris
 
Nice looking rigs.

Good idea re the bottom of the shotgun shell embedded between two layers of leather.

Did You flatten out the brass or how do You ensure, thats it stays put?
 
Great job Chris! Holster looks good. I too like the two tone on the collars.
 
I am with everybody else. Great work on all of them. On your rifle slings did you cut them out of a full side of leather like you would for making a belt?
 
Thanks fellas. Please, if anyone sees anything that needs a critique, don't hold back.

Bladescout, I treated the brass just like a rivet. My ball peen wasn't large enough to get the brass started on the round over, so I used a 2" trailer hitch ball to get it started and finished flattening with the hammer.
Gadsden, I used a double shoulder, but yes, I cut them out in 1 piece. It is hard to tell from the picture, but the 2 slings with the conway buckles are lined and padded in the shoulder pad area.

After finishing this set a projects I have some afterthought questions for you guys.
Dave, from looking at your website it doesn't appear that you normally line your holsters. Do you ever find it necessary to line or finish the inside of holsters with gum tragacanth?
Up to this point I've used a rotary style leather punch for my smaller holes. I would consider mine to be mid range and I had to sharpen it multiple times to get through all the holes on the rifle slings. Are the higher end rotary punches worth it or do they suffer some of the same downfalls as the lower priced options? Should I just get a quality hammer style set instead?

Thanks!
Chris
 
Chris on that type of holster I don't line them. Doesn't seem to be an issue. However I could if requested. I do line my Rangelfap holsters but they work a little differently. The gun sits looser as the Rangleflap is not wet molded to a specific gun. I've got years of carrying in an unlined holsters and years of carrying in lined holsters that I didn't make. Honestly I can't see much difference in the protection of the finish which is suppose to be the idea behind the lining. I have heard of folks slicking the inside with gum but I've never done that either. I really like the lines on your holster. Looks comfortable and servicable. Did ya bake it like a pancake sheath? That really makes a difference. I use 8-10 oz for that kind of holster by the way. Not used that Ruger but I hear really good things about them.

Don't own a rotary punch. I don't even have one in the tack room of the stocktrailer like a lot of folks. I have only drive punches. Osbornes are pretty cheap and they last. I don't think I've ever sharpend a drive punch. I have other punches like spearpoints and bag punches but not a round hole drive punch.

Thats very clever on the shotgun shell. I like it. Tandy has them as conchos now but I ike your way cause you can do it in any gauge and its real, not a casting.
 
Very nice work....on all of it. You definitely have more skill than I. Wish I had more time to complete some of my wanted projects.

Speaking specifically of the holster, the most important question is...."How does it feel?" The cosmetics (and they look great by the way) will change with practice, wants, desired look, etc. But the trick is to keep the gun secure, with little to no discomfort.

For retention (on a pistol), I usually bone the ejection port recess and indent inside the trigger guard. When working around the trigger, make sure the gun (or mold) you are using has the trigger in full out position. Some guns, like Glock (and likely your SR40), will have the trigger out when striker is set (cocked), but stay in a rearward position when fired without ammo. You don't want to work the leather with the trigger back, then have a fully loaded and cocked firearm pressed into a holster only to have the leather push the trigger back. Ouch, could be a good case of Glock-Leg. ;) Long shot I know, but I wouldn't want to even partially be responsible for an "unfortunate" chain of events.

My little trick for the trigger guard recess is to use a small bouncy ball. I make sure the trigger is full forward, then place a little rubber ball over the area and clamp. I use the "Quick Grip" style of bar clamps for most of my wet molding tasks. In fact, I usually do most of my wet molding at a single time. While the gun (with rubber ball) is clamped to a small plastic board, I'll do the rest of the tight area boning at that time. That way I don't have to wait and rewet the leather all over again.

For the comfort aspect, my trial and errors have brought me to the fact that I don't want any "hot spots" or pressure points on my body. Not always easy to do with a 3-D object and protrusions such as safety levers and such. I wear a firearm 7 days per week, so comfort is always an issue. So my own holsters are now done with the full firearm molded into only the front leather slab. The back is sometimes reinforced, and as flat as possible. This allows the back to mold to my body over time. And as the front leather is the only source of gun shape and retention, if it relaxes a bit over time, the back portion actually creates a few new points as it curves in and shapes to the body.

My favorite stamp is exactly what you used, a basic basket weave. With a nice deep stamp in well cased leather, a full coverage design like you used actually increases the leather rigidity and ability to hold the gun shape securely for a long time. I don't remember exactly when I put my current holster into service, but it's going on two years, at least. And still has nice firearm retention, even after many hundreds of gun draws and reholsters. No, not from gun fights, ;), but from many potty breaks and changes of clothes over the last couple years. Mine shows some wear on on the top edges from many lazy reholsters.

I also started lining the back slabs only. Partially for looks just to cover up the flesh side of body shield, and partially for rigidity. The thin embossed lambskin that I have been using doesn't add the strength, but it's the function of bonding the two with contact cement that does it.

Just for fun, here's some old recycled pics. The first is my daily wear rig, pic taken about a year ago. The next two are of a holster I made nearly a year ago for a friend and his SR9.

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Thanks fellas.
Dave, I did bake the holster for a bit and I did use 8-9 oz front and back for the holster. If you look close there is a line going down the center on the back. There must have been a residue of some sort on the rack that transferred. I like my Ruger. I ended up choosing the Ruger over a Springfield Armory because they still have a traditional safety. I know the die hard conceal carry guys despise a safety, but no more than I carry, it fits my needs.
Also, I'm sure you've told me in the past, but what do you use for a backing when using your punches? Poundo Board?

bflying, some nice tips. Thank you. I also like your backgrounder border. Never seen it before. I like it.

Chris
 
Hey Chris when I bake em I stick them on 4 sheets of card stock so that they don't directly touch the rack. I punch on one of those white poly cutting boards. Have it over a stone which is on a rubber poundo board, all of which lives permanently directly over one of the legs on the workbench. Makes it pretty solid that way. Been having that safety discussion with Nichole. Fraid I come down on the other side there with those other guys.

bflying really like your deal with a bouncy ball. Thats cool and clever.
 
Nearly a year later and some 20 holsters under my belt now, here are my last 4 and very likely the last finished projects for me this year.
Top 2 fit Sig 1911s, bottom left fits a Taurus revolver and the bottom right is an XDs45.
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I wasn't sure I'd like the red thread with that dye color, but I think I actually like it better than the black. The white being my favorite of course.

As always, comments and critiques are encouraged!
Thanks for looking,
Chris
 
Just dang nice work Chris. Very nice.Distinctive style.
 
Baking is done after the wet molding, tooling stitching etc. The only thing I do after the baking is oiling (or dyeing the occasional holster) and then rubbing the edges and applying the finish. Everything else is done prior. Baking provides a stiffnes to the leather that allows it to hold its shape after years of carrying the gun around. My own personal opinion is that it helps the leather dry from the inside out. Its important to do it correctly. I'd check out the sticky at the top of the page with the tutorials. Look at the one I did on making a pancake sheath. Its got the directions there. Follow those directions and you'll be fine. Deviate much and you could ruin your project. After a lifetime of carrying a handgun and 25 -30 years of making holsters I would not make a holster of this type without baking it. Other guys have their ways and each has merit. This is what has worked very well for me.
 
Thanks for sharing, Chris. Your work looks great. I really like the dog collars. I've also enjoyed the conversation on this thread--some nice tips being shared on here that is very helpful (thanks everyone). I'm really looking forward to spreading my wings on some other projects in the future---particularly holsters. What's the best way to find or design patterns? I have no idea where to start. You really knocked it out of the park with your first try.
 
Baking the leather makes a huge difference.

I only do it for leather I want to stiffen up (like a wet molded sheath or holster).
 
You guys are making me rethink ever trying a holster...I'm amazed at how nicely made those shown here are.

Really nice work...
 
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