First Knife! Advice welcomed... Second knife started

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I finally took the plunge, and made my first knife.

(second knife started at post 13)

My goal was to make a simple shiv, kind of like a Fairbairn Sykes dagger in overall shape. I am welcoming and completely open to critique from members here, and your advice will be taken wholeheartedly and be much appreciated. I think some advice will really help for the second time around.

What I did:

I used a Simonds file for the blade. I took the advice of some earlier posts about file knives and heated it up to 450 for two hours, quenched it in running tap water, and repeated that once more.

I did most of the grinding work on a hand held belt sander -flipped onto its back. I was able to do the primary grinds as well as the edges this way. I also used a bench grinder to thin the tang all the way up to the guard area. During the grinding, I only removed a small amount at a time, and kept a pot of water close by for cooling.

When the blade was mostly finished I found some scrap brass, hacked it, and ground it to shape for the pommel and guard.

For the handle, I stacked some leather on a screw with washers and a couple bolts, soaked them in water and tightened the bolts to compress it all together, then shaped them with a pocket knife and the hand sander.

While the leather was drying out, I put threads on the pommel and the tang of the knife.

Once everything was dry, I put it all together, and did a little shaping to the leather handle and pommel using the sander. Took it apart again and put it back together, this time with epoxy on all the metal parts.

I finished it by dipping the handle into a pot of paraffin wax and used a heat gun to help soak in all the waxy goodness.

Here are some of the pics...

Primary grinds:
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Edge grinds:
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Original tang stamp:
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Handle, pommel, and guard progress:
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Some finished pics:
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It might not be perfect, but I am definitely addicted at this point!:D

Thanks for the help!

-Max
 
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Wow! I know next to nothing about the actual mechanics and science of making knives, so I can't comment on your process, but I love the look of your finished product given the tools you had at hand. Very cool!

I'd love to hear the pros weigh in.

Zieg
 
now that is a cool first knife or any number good job man!!

its too bad the file wasn't big enough to get the stamp in the ricasso area that would have just topped it off
 
Here is the sheath all finished up. I was going for simple.

I added a boot/ belt clip to the back under a strip of leather.

There is a strip of velcro inside the metal clip to function with gun/ duty belts that have velcro on the inside of the belt.

I dipped it in paraffin wax to make it more solid and a little weather resistant.

The welts just barely touch the edges of the blade, making for a very tight fit. I can shake the sheath upside down and the knife stays put.

Overall I am pretty happy with it. I might end up adding a "drop-loop" that will attach to the clip for lower cary.

Here are the pics...

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Wow impressive, a dagger for a first knife and it turned out awsome!? Man you new guys are killing me with the quality of craftsmanship I'm seeing in some of these blades! Looks like you are off to a good start!
 
Thanks!!!!

I really like daggers, so the work aspect was all fun.

I just started the second knife yesterday and should have progress pics up this week. Going for a bigger version of the same shape.
 
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Very nice, you should be proud of that!

On a next one you could cut threads in the buttplate and do without the nut
It is actualy quit easy to do
 
Thanks! The buttplate is threaded as well, and I can definitely see what you mean.

Im holding the knife up right now with my hand covering the nut, and I think you are right... It would look a lot more "clean" without the nut. I will try just the buttplate for my second knife.

Thanks again for the advice!
 
Lots of lessons to take away from this one but lots of things to be proud of as well. Great job.
 
Thanks for the responses everyone!

Here is some progress I have been making with the second knife...

Profiling and tapering...
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Progress with the primary bevels...
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More progress with primary bevels...
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I have been thinking that the rowlock in the pictures would make a neat pommel and guard. The U shape could be cut down into a dogbone kind of pommel and the cylindrical part could make the guard. ...Still not sure if I should keep it simple like a scottish dirk, or go more "sword fighting" with a large guard and large pommel.
 
More refinement and the edge grind... (I probably could have thinned down the main bevels a bit more before adding the edge...)

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I dont really have a sure plan for the handle and sheath yet, but I am definitely enjoying making these.

I just talked to a local metal shop and put in an order for some 1" diameter brass rod and 4' of 1084. I'm going to try to use files for their actual purpose this time, and then give rustic heat treating a shot. Cant wait to make more!:D:D:D
 
Thanks guys! Give it a shot! I had really low expectations going into this project, and I wasn't planning on making anything of monetary value, so it was all fun.
 
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