First New Emerson in Years (CQC-7B)

gastonian

gastonian

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So, I have been without an Emerson for a few years now and decided I needed to get another one. I have always loved the looks of the cqc-7 without the wave, so I knew the cqc-7 would be the one for me to get. I have owned a horseman, a-100, mini cqc-7, and a specwar, so I thought I knew what I was getting into.

I was expecting to spend the next few days breaking in the cqc-7, but I was wrong! This 7 has that nice hydraulic feeling I used to have to work so hard for! As with every Emerson I have ever owned the grinds on the blade are impeccable. It's obvious that Emerson has really stepped up their game as this knife locks up solid in every direction with a centered blade and smooth action right out of the box. It even has a great detent! I hope this is the new norm :thumbsup:



My new weekend edc, check out that blade!


 
gastonian said:
I was expecting to spend the next few days breaking in the cqc-7, but I was wrong! This 7 has that nice hydraulic feeling I used to have to work so hard for! As with every Emerson I have ever owned the grinds on the blade are impeccable. It's obvious that Emerson has really stepped up their game as this knife locks up solid in every direction with a centered blade and smooth action right out of the box. It even has a great detent! I hope this is the new norm :thumbsup:



My new weekend edc, check out that blade!


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The 7 is one of my favorites since I love Mr. Emersons tanto grind knives. I have several variations.

All newer Emersons I have have all been centered and have early lockup. The only ones I have with centering issues are older or preowned. And if that's a new CQC-7 it will have a single detent, like my new Roadhouse, which makes it pretty smooth opening and closing. My RH will drop shut now with a jiggle. In fact the only Emersons I have with stiff/sticky action are two older Super7's - and I could loosen the pivot on those.
 
jceckrosh said:
The 7 is one of my favorites since I love Mr. Emersons tanto grind knives. I have several variations.

All newer Emersons I have have all been centered and have early lockup. The only ones I have with centering issues are older or preowned. And if that's a new CQC-7 it will have a single detent, like my new Roadhouse, which makes it pretty smooth opening and closing. My RH will drop shut now with a jiggle. In fact the only Emersons I have with stiff/sticky action are two older Super7's - and I could loosen the pivot on those.
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It is new, but I guess older stock as it has the double detent. Its the first double detent model I have had with a nice detent though so I guess they made some improvements to them before scraping the design.
 
gastonian said:
It is new, but I guess older stock as it has the double detent. Its the first double detent model I have had with a nice detent though so I guess they made some improvements to them before scraping the design.
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I'll bet it is not really double detent - Seven's are still shipping with the cutout for the old Safe-D detent, but no bearing in place and not "sprung" (bent towards blade). The hole in the blade will be in the position for the lockbar detent to fall in. And yes, out-of-the-box perfect action is the new norm.
 
Hey OM!

It really has the double detent. I can see both detent bearings and the second detent is sprung. The knife has great action and has a detent, so I thought that Emerson upped their game on the double detent. I didn't know that they are moving in another direction. Did they move away from the impregnated grease that they used to use?

I could never warm up to the wave, but I missed owning an Emerson. I love the way Emerson grinds their blades. They have some of the most precise and consistent grinds in the business imo.:thumbsup:
 
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gastonian said:
Hey OM!

It really has the double detent. I can see both detent bearings and the second detent is sprung. The knife has great action and has a detent, so I thought that Emerson upped their game on the double detent. I didn't know that they are moving in another direction. Did they move away from the impregnated grease that they used to use?

I could never warm up to the wave, but I missed owning an Emerson. I love the way Emerson grinds their blades. They have some of the most precise and consistent grinds in the business imo.:thumbsup:
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Interesting... Can you see which detent is falling into the blade at full close? The Safe-D detent and the lockbar detent are in different positions. On the newer setups that use the lockbar detent for closed retention, the hole is noticeably larger than the older setup that used the Safe-D detent to hold the blade in the handle.
 
Officer's Match said:
Interesting... Can you see which detent is falling into the blade at full close? The Safe-D detent and the lockbar detent are in different positions. On the newer setups that use the lockbar detent for closed retention, the hole is noticeably larger than the older setup that used the Safe-D detent to hold the blade in the handle.
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It's the Safe-D detent, not the detent on the lock bar. If Emerson changed to a single detent on all models, then mine must be a new old stock model. Love it though, I can see an improvement over the 12-13 models that I used to own. I kind of want to know if the A100's will have a single detent when they get restocked on the Emerson website. I want to see how a single detent model compares to mine and the A100 seems to be the only other non-waved Emerson besides the 7a variant.
 
gastonian said:
It's the Safe-D detent, not the detent on the lock bar. If Emerson changed to a single detent on all models, then mine must be a new old stock model. Love it though, I can see an improvement over the 12-13 models that I used to own. I kind of want to know if the A100's will have a single detent when they get restocked on the Emerson website. I want to see how a single detent model compares to mine and the A100 seems to be the only other non-waved Emerson besides the 7a variant.
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Must admit I'm surprised. Here are some pic's of new/old blades (new on left - note the difference in the detent holes).
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And here are the liners, also new/left and old/right. Note the additional blade-stop-pin hole in the new for the "flipper" models.
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Officer's Match said:
Must admit I'm surprised. Here are some pic's of new/old blades (new on left - note the difference in the detent holes).
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And here are the liners, also new/left and old/right. Note the additional blade-stop-pin hole in the new for the "flipper" models.
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It looks like your knives have a different logo than mine. My knife's logo looks more like the unserrated version on the right minus the production year. Mine says "Emerson Knives INC. USA" no year of producton.
 
gastonian said:
It looks like your knives have a different logo than mine. My knife's logo looks more like the unserrated version on the right minus the production year. Mine says "Emerson Knives INC. USA" no year of producton.
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Logo on the left is the current, newest logo, and started mid 2017 IIRC. Dateless logo on the right, started in 2014 or so (rolling change as model stock replenished in both cases). My newest is a Sheepdog Bowie BT, and has that newest logo.

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gastonian said:
I've always been a sucker for that bowie blade shape and Emerson does them right!:thumbsup:
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I gave that one to my daughter, as she was crazy for the blade shape. It's action was one of the best flippers I've had (I have some crazy good ones too), but it would easily and smoothly thumb slowly open too - best combo of those methods by far I've ever experienced.
 
Officer's Match said:
I gave that one to my daughter, as she was crazy for the blade shape. It's action was one of the best flippers I've had (I have some crazy good ones too), but it would easily and smoothly thumb slowly open too - best combo of those methods by far I've ever experienced.
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She has great taste!!

I've never been much of a flipper guy myself, but that profile might make me want to try it out. I have been looking at the Aftershock to get my bowie fix. However, as I mentioned earlier, I would prefer if it didn't have the wave. I might have to give the wave feature another shot I guess.
 
Couple things...

I didn't know they switched back to single detent. Wonder why. I also noticed the new liners are cut out at an angle where the spring meets the blade tang, whereas the old ones were cut square. I wonder if the old construction explains the past stories of random lock failures, while the new construction is responsible for all the solid positive reports I'm now hearing. It makes sense if you know liner locks!! Dat angle.

I dig that new logo! Also a thing I was unaware of til now. Good to know, as it might have falsely instilled the idea of a counterfeit had I seen it on a potential purchase. But am I the only one who prefered the original domed pivot and backspacer construction? And the double detent, while I'm at it???
Lol!

Officers Match, do you know how lucky you are to have a daughter who appreciates knives?? Congrats! Nice job there!!

Gastonian, is your avatar from Insidious??? I'm dying to know!
 
Jamesh Bond said:
I didn't know they switched back to single detent. Wonder why. I also noticed the new liners are cut out at an angle where the spring meets the blade tang, whereas the old ones were cut square. I wonder if the old construction explains the past stories of random lock failures, while the new construction is responsible for all the solid positive reports I'm now hearing. It makes sense if you know liner locks!! Dat angle.
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I believe you are correct about the smaller contact area, positioned the furthest from the pivot it can be = maximum lockup, while allowing for less spring tension to achieve solid lockup (which I believe contributes to the newly superb out-of-the-box action).
 
Jamesh Bond said:
I dig that new logo! Also a thing I was unaware of til now. Good to know, as it might have falsely instilled the idea of a counterfeit had I seen it on a potential purchase. But am I the only one who prefered the original domed pivot and backspacer construction? And the double detent, while I'm at it???
Lol!
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I like the new single detent from a retention stand point - they are much improved yet smooth to open, and wave much better. I agree on the backspacer and LOVE domed pivots.

Jamesh Bond said:
Officers Match, do you know how lucky you are to have a daughter who appreciates knives?? Congrats! Nice job there!!
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Sure do, she has carried a CQC-10SF for the past 5 years or so, along with a Kahr P380 (Glock 45 caliber in the winter). Smart girl too (ACT score of 33).
 
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