First of my Blade Show Knives

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From 1998 when I first found out there was such a thing as Custom Knives Ed Fowler has been my favorite maker and owning a Pronghorn has been a dream. First I started doing drawings of knives I liked and then the need to feel something solid caused me to make some knives out of wood. One of the ones I made was a Pronghorn. I actually got up the nerve to show Ed Fowler my wooden reproduction and instead of laughing himself silly he told me whatt I did right and what needed to be better. He also suggested I setup a forge and start making real knives. From that day on not only was the Pronghorn my favorite knife but Ed was my favorite maker. Over the last couple of months Ed & Angie have become friends.

This past Sunday a dream became a reality when I bought a Pronghorn, and I'd like to share it with you.

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That mini Pronghorn isn't a PhotoShop trick it's a miniature I bought from Earl Witsaman, shown actual size.
The pic of Ed and I is by my friend Max Burnett.

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THAT is a beautiful knife you have Phil. I don't think you could have asked for any better Blade Show memory than spending some time with Ed and getting the opportunity to purchase one of his knives.

Great work with that picture too. That is a really creative way to capture and share your experience!

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Green Acres is the Place To Be, Hard Livin is the Life For Me.
 
Very nice knife! I got to handle it right after Phil bought it....

It was great getting to finally meet Ed, and play with the knives he brought to the show with him! Opinions vary widely on Ed's knives, but they fit the hand as well as any I've handled and I'm sure they function flawlessly...

Great score, Phil! Congrats on getting your "dream" knife!

Gene

 
Congrats on a dream fulfilled
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remember us for show and tell in November!
Did the Fowlers mention making the trip?
Good luck with your new baby!
-Ebbtide
 
Gotta wipe a tear from my eye. Phil, that is one beautiful knife, and you know how I feel about Ed and his knives. Looks like you got to spend some time with Ed, too.
Enjoy it, ya lucky bastid.

Dave
 
Very nice, Phil (even without the stag
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). This has to be one of the best stories I have yet heard of this years show. I hope to get the chance to mirror your experience someday, but the knife of my dreams would be an awesome sub-hilt from the likes of David Broadwell
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Thanks guys, I know a Pronhorn isn't everyones "Dream Knife" in fact I got some abuse from some very well known makers for buying one. I also heard what was wrong with my new Carson folder with Stelite and stag. So what can you do? It was my money and I'm happy as I can be.

Blademan, the funny thing is that Ed did a collaboration with Joe Szilenski and he had it on his table. It was an Ax and a Pronghorn in Stag with the guard engraved. What a beauty. I would have sold my soul to buy that knife, but there were no offers.
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When I booked this trip to Atlanta I didn't even have a job, but I was determined that if I had money to eat I was going. As it turned out I never did get the chance to buy dinner and there were folks that were pissed they didn't get to buy me a drink.
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Even the regulars at Blade said this show was special. I don't care what you have to do to make it to next years show, just do it. You won't be sorry.

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Phil,

Well at least we had a chance to have breakfast together.
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You're right it was a great show, and also right that it's your money so you should spend it how you want. (I got an earfull from that one maker (you know who) after you left with that Fowler. But he's your bud and he meant well.)

Picking nits on Carson's knife? That takes some doing! It's a great knife and perfect for you.

Anyway, it was a great show as you say and I'm already looking forward to next year!!!

Blues

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Did any of you guys get the chance to hold and drool over the big camp knife Ed had brought for a customer? I got that chance, and almost fell over when I saw the price! $3500
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That's a lot of money, but the knife was very nice.

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I just got an E-mail wanting to know who was putting down my purchase? I'm not going to say and I doubt I would even tell Ed if he asked. What I will say is this, they are both friends and friends can get away with saying stuff that others couldn't. They are both well known makers with strong opinions of what the perfect knife is, and guess what it doesn't look anything like a Fowler. They have both been making knives for over 25 years and they make the best knife they can. I don't have to answer to many people about how I spend my money, and my wife when she saw it thought my Pronghorn was beautiful, she said it looked like a gun in its sheath, and didn't even ask how much it cost.
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I'll be perfectly honest with you if I had to describe what a Fowler looks like, the best way I could describe the handle is that it kind of looks like a squashed Idaho potato. I'm sorry, but it's true. However when you wrap your hand around it's just magic.

Just to show you how tastes can vary, one maker told me he didn't think Audra Draper was anything special to look at.
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Now that to me is unbelievable. I was a Fashion photographer in NYC for many years and have photographed some of the most beautiful women in the world and Audra is one of the most natural beauties I have ever seen. Her eyes are alive from across the room and if the lights had gone out her smile could have lit the room. She would stand out in a room of models or movie stars, just like my wife does. Only my wife can't sharpen a knife let alone make one.

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I'm pretty sure I know who PhilL and Blues are talking about, but that is really not important.

If you talk to several different Mastersmiths, you will find they all have their own more or less unique opnions about knifemaking and other knifemakers. I think that is to be expected from craftsmen who have worked very hard to figure out for themselves what works and what does not. I kind of like the variety and the different perspectives on what makes a good knife or knifemaker.

I have had some of my knives critiqued very strongly by other makers. One, noticing the surprised look on my face said 'if you don't want to know what I think, don't ask'. But I found his criticisms informative, somewhat dissapointing, but still useful. I learned something from the criticisms.

Knifemakers will often see flaws or shortcuts in knives that I may miss. But knifemakers are a extremely ethical bunch. Most makers will not share opinions of other makers work unless they feel the information will be held in confidence. They may share their opinions about other knifemakers work with friends, but it would be impolite for those folks to identify or quote a makers comments about another maker.

You can learn alot from the opinions of different folks who are recognized masters of their craft. That they do not always agree is to be expected.

Paracelsus
 
BTW Phil, you dog, you beat to to a Fowler. I love that size, having the pleasure of handling one a couple of years ago. You are so right about the handles. Nothing special to look at, but perfectly shaped for the hand. I decided his knives were More beautiful after my hand was able to inform my eyes. Ed's knives are wonderful tools made with use in mind and function is the most important feature.

Congratulations on making a fine purchase. I am so happy that you were able to realize a long time dream in Atlanta. Enjoy it
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Paracelsus
 
I'm not trying to cause any contraversy but I would like to say how I feel about the issue of one Maker critisizing another Maker's work.

I'll start by saying that I realize that I'm posting in respected company on this issue as most other BF Members that have posted in this thread are obviously knowledgeable about Custom knives and probably have very refined Collections.

If I were to purchase a knife from one Maker and then take it to another Maker and ask his opinion, I agree that I should be willing to listen to the outcome - good or bad. But let me use an anology for the opposite scenario - If I purchase a new Corvette and find myself driving by the Ford Dealership when one of the Ford Salesman sees me and starts yelling his opinion of my new ride....well.. ...you can see the difference in these two situations.

Personally, I have very few friends that are knife Makers, so I am not in the habit of asking opinions from Makers on the knives that I buy. With that said, I tend to feel that an unsolicited critisicm concerning one of my knives, the price of the knife or the Maker of that knife is partially aimed at me (the buyer/owner). I would perceive that type of comment to be a jab at my obviously poor ability to choose a high quality product or my lack of negotiation skills on the price. But, if these comments were made by true friends maybe they were made in jest and not truly meant to hurt or be taken seriously.

Perhaps I'm too sensitive in some regards. I will reiterate what Phil has already stated... your money, do what you want with it.

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Phil it was my pleasure to have met you last weekend and I hope it will be the first of many meetings. Maybe next time I will not be so much of a wanderer.

This was another heck of a nice knife. Ed's knives literally melt into my hands usually.

I think I was there (at least on the loading dock) when a comment was made. I may be mistaken, but the one I heard just sounded like someone pulling Phil's chain.

"What's ya gonna do with a knife like that a guy from Brooklyn for God's sake
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As many of you know Ed & Angie Fowler do read the Forums. It was only natural that Ed would want to comment and he did in an E-mail to me, I asked if he minded if I post it here?
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Hi Phil:
I noted you mentioned a critic toward my knives. I am fully aware some don't like my knives. Bill Moran told me that I would have to make art knives if I were to be successful in the world of knives. I told him that if a could develop a totally functional using knife I would be the only one in that arena as no one was making one at that time. He looked at me like I was crazy, then smiled and said "good luck".

Yes my knives are different. Yes my thoughts on steel are different, and my grinds are different. There is a functions reason for every tiny corner in my knives. All thought out by simply using them. The handles are ugly, when you compare them to the "classic" designs as seen by the human eye. Most of the handles are made the way they are because the makers don't know any better. They are designed to fit the eye of the conformist. Most of the knives that are presently made have handles that would be quickly modified by a man who knew what the hand wants to work with.

Handles "should be proportional to the blade" is an old adage. I see it this way, handles should be proportional to the hand that holds the knife. All of my handles will not fit all hands, each is an individual. Just figure what life would be like if all shoes were the same size?
The beauty in my handles comes from the natural aspect of the horn itself. I spend a lot of time blending the natural qualities to fit the hand I see holding the knife. There are also qualities of texture and color and intricate design. Very few ever see all I dream as I match up a handle, some see more, some less, all see them differently. That is OK.

I know that no one has ever lost money on one of my knives, unless he does something stupid.. My guarantee is that I will buy back any knife at any time for the original purchase price. I wish I could buy back all the knives I ever sold and sell them for what they are worth today. Like I have said all along, the knives on my table are cheaper now than they will be at any time in the future. Not many knife makers can say that. Why? because my knives are not only unique, in that you can see them across the room as "Fowler Knives". But also due to the fact that they are not easily copied. When it comes to the knives I am now making, very few have the insight to see what is there, even less have the ability to successfully copy one of them. There is more to them than they can see.

I have not even touched on the aspects of blade performance. The blade you purchased will cut with the best cutting steel out there, and sharpen easily. It can easily withstand 4 1/2 180 degree flexes with out cracking. The spine is probably around 40 RC or less, the cutting edge is 60. Photo micro graphs reveal a grain structure that exceeds the old theoretical limit for grain refinement of 52100. (recent metallurgical report). The tip will engrave mild steel and is very strong and tough.
I believe that the high performance blade is not a thing to be captured, but forever sought, I have many thoughts on how to make them better and continue to improve them.
I did not do it all by myself.. It is good friends and supporters like you who have made it all possible, and I owe it all to them and Angie who does all she can to keep me in the shop, brings me lunch and has the first welcome opportunity to criticize all I make.

The many hours of testing and evaluation have been supported totally by those who have had faith in what I stand for and I owe all I am to them. The critics mostly cause me to smile, for they have no idea what they address. Some have pushed me to higher levels and I thank them. Any time you hear a criticism of my knives, I don't care who speaks, let me know what they say and if you feel it is worthy of comment, let me know and I will be more than honored to discuss it with you.
Thanks for the support and friendship.

Ed
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Thanks Ed, is it just me or does this guy show some potential as a writer?
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"Thanks Ed, is it just me or does this guy show some potential as a writer?
" and or a person that makes this hobby so special.

Thanks Phil and Ed.

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