First Post here: Getting my six year old Daughter started on Knives

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Hello to All,

I've been a lurker for sometime, but reading (and a lot of rereading) Jacknife's posts, as well as the other informative posts here, has led me to realize that anywhere in the world, most (if not all) knife traditions are indeed universal. And as knife persons, one of the responsibilities that each of us have is to help spread what we have learned from our experiences with knives in order for the next generation to carry on with these traditions that we have made part of our lives.

I have been collecting for sometime, but recently, my interests have veered towards traditional style slipjoints, SAKs and fixed blades. I have a daughter, Iola, aged six (and going on seven this September), and recently, she got interested in "papa's knives", especially the SAKs. I noticed that for every new knife that I acquired, especially multi-bladed knives like the Stockman or multi-function knives like the SAKs, she would be quite interested in knowing what functions each of these knives had. I remember when I got an old SAK Explorer, and she was quite excited to discover it had Scissors and a magnifying glass, among other tools.

Now, my little girl recently asked for a knife of her own, and I was quite thrilled when she expressed such interest. Being an active Arts and crafts type, she expressed interest in a small knife with scissors, one that she could open by herself (she tried opening the SAK Explorer once, but she had difficulty with the spring being too tough for her little hands to open). I was only too glad to oblige, and I got her a SAK Classic, which she can open quite easily. She now uses the little SAK a lot, most of the time the scissors. I have tried my best to cover all the basics, such as teaching her where NOT to put her fingers, and not to point a knife blade at someone, how to open and close the blade and other tools, that a knife is not a pry bar, that she should not run while holding a knife, etc. I am happy to report that my daughter has been quite receptive of this instruction, and is quite proud to point out that she is doing something correctly ("Papa, I closed the blade properly!").

Looking back, I never would have thought of giving my daughter a knife of her own at her age if I hadn't started reading Jacknife's posts and the general agreement from a lot of the members here about starting kids early on knives, and teaching them how to properly use them so that they can grow into responsible adults with an appreciation and respect for knives. I will admit that a knife, even a small one, when used improperly, can hurt someone, especially children. So, starting them early seems to be the best way to build the knowledge base, so to speak.

Lately though, my daughter has been eyeing all my other SAKs, and pointing out which one she wants next :D:D:D She has her eyes set on the Explorer, a Champion, and also on a Buck Stockman that she tried one time (she loves the look of the wood scales). So far, so good, I guess.

I would love to hear other members' thoughts and suggestions as to how to further educate our young ones.

Cheers :cool:,

Chum (cuberootsam)
 
I don't have too much advice to add really Chum, but that did make great reading, all I would do is make it a rule of such that the knife wasn't to be used with friends, also a knife that doesn't have a clip point ( not so stabby ).
It is a worry, the wee thing is only 6 going on 7 and it sounds as if you are taking as much precaution as possible, and of course Carls posts can only add to helping you and your daughter :thumbup:
Fantastic reading, thank you very much for sharing with us.
 
I believe I got my first knife around that age... Got my 2nd not long after

My addiction started early and flourished... By 10 I Proubly had 10-15 knives
 
Yep, I was about that age. My daughter loves to hold my knives, but she is 2 1/2 and can't open them. I do open them and let her hold them and talk about the same things you are talking about (she is a very careful child or I would not). There is a lot you can teach. And then there will be that first good cut. We all had it. And we all learned from it. Sounds like you're doing everything right to me. :)

The cut will happen. That's the scary part. But it is unavoidable. Teaching safe knife use and sharpening and respect for the knife as a tool is a great thing to do for a child.
 
The younger you teach children safety, the safer they'll be as adults.

My father allowed me to start working in his shop from the time I was about 5. I started using "dangerous" tools such as table/circular saws, and hand drills as soon as I was big enough to safely control them (maybe 9-10).

Now I have a feel for working in a shop that you just can't teach. It's something you had to have grown up with. It comes naturally.

Congratulations to your daughter on her first knife. Good on you.
 
The younger you teach children safety, the safer they'll be as adults.

Unless there anything like me.....


My hands have character :D


But Ofcourse I'm not normal anyways...

So yes that's true- the earlier the better, nothing like being able to ask your son or daughter to cut something, and know that there equipped and knowledgeable enough to do so

And sure there'll be their first cut, but it's not that different than there first bike accident or first faceplant etc. You learn right?
 
Good for you, getting your girl started young!:thumbup:

Kids mature at different rates, and having three of my own plus three grandchildren, I think the girls are a bit ahead of the boys. My daughter, Jessica, was ready for her first knife at about 7 or 8, while both of her brothers had to wait a few years. Also, the girls seem to gravitate to the tools on the sak's, especially the scissors. Maybe the fear of breaking a nail starts early. Even now, with Jess being a mom, she grabs her little classic from her keyring and slices open, rather than try to tear open something.

And as said, there is going to be that first cut. Not a question of if, but when. All you can do is hope that it won't require an ER, and afterwards, a nice ice cream and a gentle talk about what they think went wrong. Life is about lessons, and pocket knives are no exception. The important thing is, to make sure that you are there for your daughter when that time comes for the talk when the lesson comes.

Carl.
 
Thank you all for the replies, especially you Carl... (and thanks for all those wonderful posts!!! PLEASE WRITE A BOOK!!!)

My daughter has really shown a lot of interest in the tools, not just in SAKs, but also in knives having one or more blades or tools attached. Whenever I get another knife like a SAK, the inevitable first question to me is, "What are the tools on that knife?" And she demands that I show her each and every one, with a short explanation of what it does. I remember when I got a SAK Cybertool, she was quite intrigued about the interchangeable bits on that SAK. When she first saw the Stockman, she asked me why it had a lot of blades, when one was enough; well, for her, anyway =) That was a tough one to answer, because a six year old asks WHY, and they are not satisfied with a quick answer.

So far we have been lucky, and she has not cut herself. But I'm sure that will come soon, especially now that she is using that little classic a lot. I'm crossing my fingers =)

By the way, I live in Manila, Philippines, I have been lucky to be able to get a few SAKs here for quite cheap (US $4-5, used but easy to clean). I wish I could say the same about the other traditional knives, especially since I love the Stockman design; those are hard to find here in my part of the world. One thing I have noticed is that my little girl is also quite attracted to the color of the scales (pink and red being two of her favorite colors), and when I showed her a picture of a yellow handled stockman, she said she wanted one as well, so I will try to order one in the near future. I can already see that she will like this pattern, because she asks to use my Buck every now and then, and she loves the Sheepsfoot blade on it.

As to sharpening LKJW, I'm almost ashamed to admit that I still cannot sharpen freehand style, but I have been using a Gatco sharpening set, and I've shown my daughter how to use the thing. I also have a small $2 Gerber diamond, which I also use a lot on small blades, and she knows that you have to pull the knife through to sharpen it. However, I have been careful not to do my sharpening whenever she is around me playing, and when i do, she is usually at a safe distance, but I can tell that she has been watching me a lot these days, especially when I strop. So I guess taht the interest is really there, and I hope that I can nurture this interest into something that we both can bond with.

Thanks again to all for affirming my actions =)
 
Also a lurker, this post caught my eye as I have a 3 month old little girl and can only hope she wants to learn about knives and guns. My recommendation that I haven't seen in the thread is to encourage her to have a locking blade of some sort maybe a ladybug or small liner of some sort. my first knife at about that age was a small maybe 2" buck lockback and it was the perfect first knife, never once cut myself with that baby, but have certainly had a sak fold back on my fingers many times. Either way I agree early education is the key, by the time I was 7 I was comfortable and comfortably whittling spoons and plinking cans with a .22lr because my dad was smart teaching me the rules of how to handle dangerous tools. cheers
 
To my moms dismay at times ;), my dad and I spent a lot of time whittling on balsa wood and ivory soap bars. He started me on my 4th birthday. That time with dad certainly served two purposes the most important of which was the strength of the bond to my dad at an early age which still grows today thankfully and the respect for the tools we love so much here. My dad was old school and started me with slipjoints (keep in mind this was the late 50's) and my first locking knife was a 110 in 1968 when I was 13.
 
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As to sharpening LKJW, I'm almost ashamed to admit that I still cannot sharpen freehand style,/QUOTE]

Yes you can, Chum, you just don't know it yet!:D

Find a boy scout manual from the 50's, and learn the small circle method of shapening. It works. Or meet me over at the maintanence forum and I'll tell ya how to do it. :thumbup:

Carl.
 
I started giving and making knives to my Grand Daughter when she was 10. She is now 13 and has 10 assted slippies lockbacks and a couple of small whittling fixed blades and a skinner (currently hidden by my Daughter) that I made for her. Whenever I go to visit we sit and whittle together and talk knives. Next she's getting a small tomahawk ;-)) My Daughters going to kill me.
Here's a couple of pics of her skinner and whittler I made for her.

Best regards

Robin
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Last summer on one of our Camping trips my then 7yr old daughter wanted to sit and cut chips with me around the camp fire so I pulled out a knife and taught her some safety rules. This year I will have her using a smaller "Whittler" that she can handle better than the large Stockman I had with me last year. She is looking forward to carving a "knife" with a knife. I plan on taking some soft pine blocks with me so she can carve it fairly easily without too much pressure and maybe cutting herself. I also have started taking her to the rifle range with me and letting her shoot a CZ 452"scout" (22LR) model rifle. She is learning fast and having fun. Keep at it and have fun, these are memories she will treasure. Steven
 
I'm by no means an expert sharpener, but I can put on a decent edge freehand...those fancy contraptions confuse the heck out of me. Like Carl said, it's easier than you think it is.
 
Kumusta Chum! I also have a daughter. She's only 15-months-old, but she's already showing an affinity for knives.

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I'm no authority, but I don't think we necessarily have to do anything special when it comes to our kids and knives. At their young ages, our kids are like sponges, and they absorb information as if through osmosis. They are constantly watching us, and learning at the same time. I think that the only thing we need to do is be there when they ask the inevitable questions as well as make sure they don't hurt themselves too badly.

My little girl already owns a handful of slipjoints. An A.G. Russell Texas Ranger toothpick, a BF 2010 forum knife, a Camillus small stockman, a Victorinox Classic (in an Edelweiss floral pattern), and any of my knives that she may want. Obviously she didn't choose these for herself, I did. I think part of my role as a parent is to expose my child to things and provide guidance. This little girl will develop her own tastes in time. But how will she know of the all the different slipjoint patterns if I don't show her?

Good on you sharing your interests with your little girl. I know it's a small thing, but I really enjoy doing simple activities as long as I do them with my wife and daughter. Things like playing with knives, going to the range, or watching a Pacquiao fight are all better when family is involved.

- Christian
 
My daughter has a small collection of knives. She started collecting 2 years ago, at the age of 11, but she had a couple of SAKs before then, used mainly when camping. As far as traditionals go, she has a nice little collection of SAKs, but what she really likes are Spydercos. I never coached or encouraged her, just let her get whatever she wanted. Never "trained" her, either, as I always thought common sense is all it takes (not that she has a lot of it, but she can learn from her mistakes). I did teach her to oil the joints and to sharpen knives, but mostly she asks me to do it for her. My main concern is that she doesn't take them to school by mistake. I hope she doesn't...
 
I've told this before, but for my daughter's second birthday I made her one of those wooden kit knives. She opened it, eyes got big, and then she tested the sharpness by shaving arm hairs. I bust a gut.
 
Hi Christian! Your daughter looks so cute with that knife (bone too!!!)... So nice to meet a kababayan here... And you are right, my daughter usually watches what I do, and she asks the WHY questions a lot... Who better to provide the guidance that she needs than me, her dad... This confirms just how much of an influence we are to our children, doesn't it?
I'm hoping that years from now, she will be able to look back and be proud of her dad for teaching her the basics...

And LKJW, I've just snorted coffee out my nose laughing =) My lord, I do the same thing when testing sharpness, I try to shave off arm hairs... My left arm has less hair than the right arm LOL

Carl, I'm going to look for your posts on sharpening... I'm just so bad at doing it freehand style, I have scratched many knife blades while trying to learn...
 
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