First "real" knife

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Hello Folks,

I'm new here-been reading as a guest for the last couple of weeks, and decided to join within the last week. I found this forum while I was researching knife sharpening and guided sharpeners. A week ago I would have told you I could never see a reason to spend more that $20 on a knife, much less $100 or more on one. Today is a different story.

Let me preface this by saying that I did a little research and came across some threads here on the forum that claimed not all Frost-owned cutlery was bad-that Steel Warrior and Ocoee River, among others, was pretty decent. That being said, I am ashamed to admit it, but I had an order from Cutlery Corner arrive yesterday. Two of the 11 knives (2 of which were free) are defective. The free "tactical" folder does not lock and one of the purple assisted open knives I ordered (one for my wife and one for my daughter) is missing a screw. Most of the other knives have crappy grinds and many, but not all, are not very sharp-though a couple are very sharp. Two of the knives are in a sealed plastic wrap, so I did not even bother to open them. The whole order is going back on Monday as soon as I call them and get a Return Authorization number. As a result of this experience I have decided I will not buy anything Frost related, and I will try to buy only high-quality USA made and foreign made knives. I do know you can get some knives made in China/Taiwan that are high quality (like Spyderco, Cold Steel, Gerber and etc) , but as far as non-big name companies go, I plan to stay away from China, Taiwan and Pakistan knives.

Fast forward to today. I went the the local gun show and spent about 4 hours looking around, specifically looking for good knives. The majority of what was there was Frost junk, some Buck knives and many other junk knife dealers, but there were two high end knife dealers. The first had Spyderco, Benchmade, CRKT and some others. I was interested in a CRKT Ken Onion edition knife for $45, but then I asked where it was made: Taiwan". So I decided to look around some more. The second dealer had some junk, but also had Spyderco, Kershaw, Zero Tolerance, among others. I found one I really liked, but walked away to do some research. I went for some brunch: brat with sauerkraut, chili cheese fries and a Diet Pepsi. I found what I was looking for online and went back and got him to come down another $10:



A Kershaw Knockout 1870OLBLK is my first real knife. I really wanted a Zero Tolerance, but the only one they had was a combo blade, and I do not like/want a serrated blade. Plus my funds are a little limited. The Kershaw fit my hand well, is high quality, and the price wasn't too bad, though I could have got a used one here in the forums for a little less. I may still get a second one over in the For Sale section as it's black, not olive drab....

Anyhow, if you got this far, thanks for reading all the previous rambling. I am really excited about this knife, and I plan to get others as funds allow. I am also considering collecting Case XX Trapper knives, but I have not made the final decision on that yet. Actually, I did make the decision to do so before, but now I am rethinking if I really want to, or if perhaps I should just invest in some high quality user knives. The Case Trappers would be display only: commemorative knives and etc. I know of at least 5 or 8 I'd love to have, so I'm thinking it may be inevitable.
 
Welcome aboard, we all started somewhere. Save up some money, continue to read threads here on the knives you are interested in and learn before you make your next purchase. You will be able to get the most bang for your buck
 
The knockout is a fine knife, I have one myself. As for collecting I only buy what I want to use but you get whatever you like & let nobody tell you different.
Welcome to the forums.
 
Stay away from the traditional forum and custom knives in general... If you're thinking of collecting Case Trappers already a Richard Rogers slippy will have the wife all kinds of mad at you. Keep trying to talk mine into a Davison.
 
Welcome to the forum, and nice purchase with the Kershaw. I think it was a good idea to return the knives from the CC.
My first good quality modern folder was a Kershaw and it turned into great investment. Case has a loyal following and you will not have trouble finding people who's collections consist mostly (or completely) of Case knives.
 
Thanks guys. I am researching the ZT lines of knives to see what I like, but it'll be a while before I'm ready to buy, if I decide to buy. Yeah, ATwistedStaple, I have no plans to collect custom knives. I did not tell her how much I paid for the Knockout, nor do I have any plans to tell her. However, my wife is pretty laid back; she tends to just put up with my OCD nature. My family calls it "Phases", or "Hobby of the Month", like the aquariums I started setting up last May. I now have 4, one of which is a saltwater, a 29 gallon, that I plan to take down and replace with a 75 gallon tank. The tank is already in my garage-just waiting for me to buy the rest of the stuff. Then there was the gun collecting phase, the model railroading phase, the bowling phase-which happily did not result in buying a bowling ball, rollerskating, and etc. My interests flip all over.

I do some trapping, so the trapper pattern is particularly appealing. I have a new Boker Plus Trapper (made in China) I bought from AG Russell a couple weeks ago; but the blades have some wobble even though it is brand new. I think I'm just going to use it in the trap shed as it probably isn't worth returning. It is a lockback, which is a nice feature. I go back and forth between just getting users, or starting a collection. This whole interest started with wanting to sharpen the knives I already have. However, I'm glad I went down that path and ended up finding this forum, as I likely would have never understood the difference between a really good knife and the cheap, and in some cases, pure junk knives I have purposely bought in the past. I have a Buck 285 that is my daily work knife, and it has served it's purpose for the last 15 years (roughly), and still will. That was the baseline for my perspective that $20 knives are "good enough". I know better now, but I still need to get better/good at sharpening before I even think about taking any high dollar knives to a hone.

EDIT: I keep forgetting to mention: I also came across a rally good find at the gun show today. There was a like new Lansky sharpening kit, with regular stones, and the old style clamp with aluminum screw. I got it for $5! I already have a DMT Diafold MagnaGuide Kit with 2 double-sided diamond hones, so I mainly wanted the Lansky clamp, but I can see using the regular stones for a quick freehand touch up.
 
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Welcome bsczar1. I was in the same boat as you about 5-6 years ago..A Kershaw was one of my first "better" knives as well..Black Shallot, if I remember correctly..Had a Buck 110/112 for years prior..still love 'em.

Prepare for the addiction/hobby to get worse before it gets better..

Would love to hear more about the rollerskating...and if you still, "Ride the Lighting " I may be able to dig up an old pair of rainbow suspenders you can have...Always thought we should have a sub forum for that..:D

Just playin'

Welcome aboard.
 
Welcome. The good news is you did everything right.

Get that cable TV stuff out of the house as soon as you can. That program is to pop corn to and laugh at when you're zombie enough to be up at that hour.

Best advice someone can give you right now is to stay tuned right here. Research your stuff, abandon faith and hope you don't come out of this broke---t's 50/50.
 
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