First real sheath pic!

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I've made plenty of bad sheaths before. This one I made after reading a lot of advice from BFCers. Whaddya think?

Mike

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[This message has been edited by Michael Bennett (edited 04-04-2000).]

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Good work! I make leather sheaths similar to this every now and again; my first attempts were terrible. If this was a first attempt, you're well on your way to being excellent at this!

I'm sure you know about them, if they're in your area, but Tandy Leather is a great source for all supplies. I usually raid their scrap leather pile and come up with plenty for sheathmaking. The guy behind the counter always gets salty with me since I only buy scrap and tools.

Did you wet-mold the sheath to the knife? It looks nice and shape-fitting. I use a drill press and a 1/8" bit to drill holes for sewing, and then I use that thick waxed thread that you could suspend a freaking engine block on. It's nice too since the knots sort of disappear.

Try one of their leather stamps (pick one that's uniquely your own) to "sign" your work if you like the idea. Professor.
 
I have for some time wanted to make a pouch sheath for the Sharpfinger...it seems I now have a pattern! Looks nice. Good job.

BTW, how does it ride with the belt loop where it is? I would probably have put it at the top of the sheath.

jj
 
Stitching looks good and straight. Is that hand stitched? I carefully lay out my sheaths and then punch them by hand but it is hard to get straight lines sometimes because after they are stitched the leather deforms a little due to inconsistancies in my punching. I don't see using a drill press helping that but I have considered glueing them first then punching them and if I glued them first drilling them would work better due to the increased thickness of the material. Right now I glue them after they are stitched and before I trim or belt sand the edges. As to wet forming leather if anyone has some tips on that please enlighten me/us. I cannot bring myself to shove one of my knives down into a wet leather sheath and I don't see any other way short of making a template or mock up of the knife. Is there a good way of protecting a blade while the leather dries? The consequinces of screwing this up may out weigh the benefits.
chet
 
Hey Mike....

Excellent work!!!!
That's Great stuff...

Keep on Truck'N!!

Eric...

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Aw, now you guys got me blushing! Thanks for the heaps of compliments and feedback.

Professor, I didn't know of any Tandy Leathers in the area, but I'll have to look. Thanks for the tip.

I didn't wet-mold. I actually started out with a regular chunk of 1/16" thick or so leather. I cut the belt loop first rounded the edges using a nickel as a template, then cut a slot for the loop in the pouch piece, trying to center it by eye where i thought it would wind up.

The sheath is all hand-stitched. I consider this sheath my first real success and attribute it to lots of layout work beforehand - sort of 'measure twice and cut once."

I'll try to describe the process.

I first marked a line for the holes for stitching the belt loop on the loop itself with a fine Sharpie pen, sort of by eye and when I thought they looked OK, punched them.

I set the first end of the loop inside the sheath to stitch. I can't remember if I glued it, but I used the holes in the loop as a template to poke holes in the sheath itself. Then I stitched the loop to the inside of the sheath with 2 large needles and wax string.

Next, I used a 1/8" thick piece of leather and traced the contour of the blade for the "insert" piece. The pouch would eventually be built around that. The insert was gauged and marked about every 1/4" along a center line. Then the holes were hand-punched. I thought of making a jig, but gambled that it would look OK. (Actually, I just got lazy.

Then I glued the insert to one side of the pouch, punched holes for that side, then folded the pouch, glued and punched again. The stitching was done by hand with waxed string and 2 large needles.

Then I cut the final form and sanded off the edges, by hand again.

When I first put the knife in, I pushed it in "to make a nug fit," and promptly cut the wax string at the bottom loop!
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So I stitched it again. Any ideas on preventing that from re-occurring?

I plan to put up a DIY/how-to on my website with pictures, some day. This text is a good start.

Jeffj, it rides a little high on the hip, but I'm pretty comfortable with it. Next time, I may make a lower-riding one. It's a good suggestion, that I'll likely take on my next one.

Chet,

I'm with you on the wet-forming. I didn't want to risk keeping the knife in wet leather. It's stainless, but... I guess I don't know enough about how to do it.

Normark, thanks a lot. I've seen pictures of your work, and they're great, too!

Mike
 
Michael, you need to put a spacer in between the two halves of your sheath to prevent the blade from cutting your thread or the leather itself. My first sheath was for a large hunter with a sharpened false edge and on about the third time I pushed it down in real good it went clean out the other side. I use a piece of leather about the same thickness as the blade stock and sew it into the sheath. Most of my sheaths have tended to be "pancake" style and the spacer is all the way around. I start out with three pieces of leather and trace the knife blade on one of them - this becomes the spacer. I mark the holes and punch all three pieces at once. Then I cut out the area the knife will fit into making it pretty a close tolerence. I then stitch it together and force contact cement into the edges (3M spray 90) once it has cured I use a rock knife to trim it and finish it on a belt sander. Oh if you haven't tried the "Awl-for-All" you should it makes stitching alot easier.
Peace
chet
 
Chet,

I used a spacer, I think. It's what I called the insert. It hasn't re-occurred, but I havent'really crammed the blade in the sheath againn. Thanks for the input.

Mike
 
Nice work. Stitching and everything looks great. If I were going to carry a knife in it, I would want the belt loop moved all the way to the top of the sheath so it would ride lower on my belt though. I can't stand having the handle constantly poking me in the side.

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You can wrap your blade in Saran Wrap to protect it if you want to wet mold. You can also wet the sheath with rubbing alcohol instead of water, it dries faster.
 
You can wrap the blade in Saran Wrap to protect it during wet molding. You can wet the sheath with rubbing alcohol instead of water, it dries faster.
 
Michael, nice job, those Sharp Fingers are one of the toughest knives to make sheaths for!

One thing I do on odd shape blades is to soak the leather and the after I fold it over the knife, and Bill Boyd is right on as I use the plastic wrap around the knife so the moisture doesn't transfer to the knife, is to STRETCH the leather into the shape of the knife's blade. I recently made a LARGE Khukhri sheath for a friend and kept stretching and stretching the leather until it conformed to the bent angle of the blade, made the opening so it would accept the widest section of the blade, wrapped a wide piece of leather around the area where the handle and blade join and used a copper rivet through both the sheath and that band of leather on into the belt loop behind, so that the whole sheath will pivot on your belt when you get into your truck or sit down, works great.
But on the sharp fingers, I would stretch the leather the other way, so it arched the same as the blade shape, that point seems to always want to STICK into the folded part of the sheath.

I have recently stopped making the fixed bladed sheaths and only work on folders, just never took a liking to the fixed bladed stuff.

Keep up the good work!
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I've read that you can also simply coat a blade in oil before enserting it into its sheath for wet-molding.

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