First Sword: Cold Steel Emperor Katana?

Drudge

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Hey guys looking at purchasing my very first Katana. I'm not too concerned with historical accuracy but I do want a sword that looks good on the wall and can withstand abuse if need be. I know I could purchase a reproduction that looks good from afar for $100 but I know I won't be happy with it. My price ceiling is about $500 and thats why I need your advice on the Cold Steels Emperor Katana. The Cold Steel Katana looks like a tough SOB but is it a quality sword. Any information on this sword or any other recommendation would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 
Check out this video on YouTube by Nutnfancy. He'll give you the low down on these awesome weapons. On a side note... I've seen a couple of Cold Steel's katanas in person and if it really came down to having to defend my life with one of these... I wouldn't think twice about it due to the amazing quality.

[video=youtube;hH1qi_jWwtk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH1qi_jWwtk[/video]
 
Thx JSM I actually saw that vid. last night. Unfortunately I can't see one in person so good folks like yourself is what I'm going to rely on. Thanks alot :)
 
I know you said 500 but for about 700, Mantis makes some pretty good katanas: hand forged from T10 high-carbon steel.

http://www.mantisswords.com/great_wave_swords.htm

I'll leave my thoughts on Nutnfancy to myself since I don't want to start a flame war so early in my membership here.

ETA: I'm a noob when it comes to European blades, but I've used Mantis iaitos for iai-justu and they're top-notch. You do pay a premium for them, though.
 
I know you said 500 but for about 700, Mantis makes some pretty good katanas: hand forged from T10 high-carbon steel.

http://www.mantisswords.com/great_wave_swords.htm

I'll leave my thoughts on Nutnfancy to myself since I don't want to start a flame war so early in my membership here.

ETA: I'm a noob when it comes to European blades, but I've used Mantis iaitos for iai-justu and they're top-notch. You do pay a premium for them, though.

Thank you. I'll definitely take a look at their swords.
 
You could always look at the CAS Hanwei tactical series. They are well made and can be had for under $150. Reviews are good on them. I've had a couple. They are tough.
 
You could always look at the CAS Hanwei tactical series. They are well made and can be had for under $150. Reviews are good on them. I've had a couple. They are tough.

Will check into the Hanwei line also. Thank you.
 
try kris cutlery and cheness. Cold steel is tough but too bulky in my opinion
 
Cas Hanwei, Paul Chen sword.

The money you pay will be spent for the sword itself. When you buy CS, you are paying a premium to cover their marketing expenses.
 
For a first sword in the Japanese style something from the Hanwei Raptor series would be appropriate I think. :)

Like will_1400, I'll also bite my tongue regarding my thoughts on Nutnfancy, and that's all I ought to have to say anyway. :p
 
Cheness Kaze at $300 gives you an all around solid budget katana that can do hard cutting and has an authentic look to it, mainly because of the natural hamon. Honestly it basically kills every single traditional budget katana out there and I think its the best cheap katana period. Need to go $1k+ to get something better. If you just want a modern indestructable beater katana than CS isnt bad but its still overpriced as hell and doesnt even compare to sub $300 Cheness mono spring steel katanas like the Tenchi.
 
I find Cheness tsuka construction iffy at best, personally.
 
I've never been a big fan of Cold Steel swords. Sure, they're well made and overbuilt. But that's kinda the problem too. They're overbuilt. Balance and handling is pretty bad, in my opinion. If you haven't been formally trained, however, that may not really be a problem.

I'd go for one of the higher end Hanwei offerings, personally, or else go custom. Stuart Branson could probably do you proud. If you need a suggestion on where to buy your Hanwei, shoot me a PM. I've got a favorite place.
 
I think I'm leaning towards either the Hanwei Practical Plus Elite or the Practical Plus XL. There might be a martial arts store in my area that carry Hanwei so maybe I can handle one.
 
cs katana is a nice sword to practice your skill, strength and overall agility. also a decent replacement for hacking tree brench when you do not have the right tool.

but truth to be told, it is by far nothing close to an effective weapon for self defense. first, too big to conceal. you will get shot before you can even get close. or before you can draw the 75cm blade fully out, punks will grapple you to the ground then more men come in finish you off with stomps and kicks. see, the better way to defending yourself is not make enemy fear you big sword, guns or nukes. that was the outdated ussr style(effective but not time/money worth). the better way is to smile at your foes, offer a cigarates or weed to them, then making them guess if you have someone aiming a sword, gun or even nukes beihind their back. come back from those war philisiphy, in real modern day selfdefense a revolver pluse bowie knife/peper spary combination would be perfered by me.

second, in case both side draw their sword already in a medieval duel style(lets imagin it really happened between 2 nerds in this 21th century day), cs katana is too thick and too heavy yet not long enough to offer you any technique advantage against your opponent. in such shitty situation, you want to deliver your target a disabling wound without yourself getting hurt. you do not need an over built unbreakable sword to cut your target in 2 like in those misleading movies or youtube videos. you want a fast, light blade to disable or kill your foe, at the same time strong enough to not break. a longer and thinner sword full of dents can still kill your target as effectively, but a heavier and shorter blade will have harder time hitting your target effectively.

acctrully i think you should buy a CS katana. its extra weight is excellent for practicing your strength and control of the weapon. that offers you advantage when you use lighter sword in a real duel in case it really happens. overly built blade will make it last longer than others in practice cutting.
 
cs katana is a nice sword to practice your skill, strength and overall agility. also a decent replacement for hacking tree brench when you do not have the right tool.

but truth to be told, it is by far nothing close to an effective weapon for self defense. first, too big to conceal. you will get shot before you can even get close. or before you can draw the 75cm blade fully out, punks will grapple you to the ground then more men come in finish you off with stomps and kicks. see, the better way to defending yourself is not make enemy fear you big sword, guns or nukes. that was the outdated ussr style(effective but not time/money worth). the better way is to smile at your foes, offer a cigarates or weed to them, then making them guess if you have someone aiming a sword, gun or even nukes beihind their back. come back from those war philisiphy, in real modern day selfdefense a revolver pluse bowie knife/peper spary combination would be perfered by me.

second, in case both side draw their sword already in a medieval duel style(lets imagin it really happened between 2 nerds in this 21th century day), cs katana is too thick and too heavy yet not long enough to offer you any technique advantage against your opponent. in such shitty situation, you want to deliver your target a disabling wound without yourself getting hurt. you do not need an over built unbreakable sword to cut your target in 2 like in those misleading movies or youtube videos. you want a fast, light blade to disable or kill your foe, at the same time strong enough to not break. a longer and thinner sword full of dents can still kill your target as effectively, but a heavier and shorter blade will have harder time hitting your target effectively.

acctrully i think you should buy a CS katana. its extra weight is excellent for practicing your strength and control of the weapon. that offers you advantage when you use lighter sword in a real duel in case it really happens. overly built blade will make it last longer than others in practice cutting.

Wait a sec. Using a katana to hack a tree branch? That's a damn good way to break a katana. They're designed to slice, not chop/hack. Using a sword for that kind of work is abusive as hell.
 
acctrully cs katana is pretty good at hack tree brenches(less than 5 inches in diameter). 6~7.5mm thick blade spring tempered for toughness and springness with good enough hardness, it make a decent tree hacker(if you don't have an axe or saw).

a katana might designed to slice, but it has to be strong enough to be a weapon first. a sword won't break when hitting the tree. and it shouldn't. it might flex, dent or stuck in the wood and bend, but should not break unless it is poorly made/heat treated.
 
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That's debatable, and depends on the design and style of the particular sword. Swords were not designed to repeatedly strike hard immobile targets. Even if striking a man in full plate armor, the man will move slightly. A tree is unyielding and causes much more shock and reverberation. It's sort of like prying staples or driving screws with the tip of a pocket knife. You can do it a few times and cause minimal damage, but keep on doing it and you're begging for a broken tip.
 
For a first sword in the Japanese style something from the Hanwei Raptor series would be appropriate I think. :)

Like will_1400, I'll also bite my tongue regarding my thoughts on Nutnfancy, and that's all I ought to have to say anyway. :p

I see your posts on a lot of forums. You seem very knowledgeable about blades. I've been looking into buying a katana recently (haven't looked into it much unfortunately). Is there one in particular that you recommend? I'm not trying to break the bank so something within a reasonable budget for a first time.
 
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