Fishing kindness

KYenglish

KYenglish

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Hey all,

So my son and I have been trying to fish, I say trying because we don't know what we're doing really, but we have had a lot of fun going down to a nearby pond. We usually go on small day hikers and I hope to get the fmaily back into camping now my son and daughter are just about old to take and thought picking up a new way to get food other then packing it with me would be a good idea.

I figured a few pictures goers well with an introduction and fo course if you all have any tips or suggests to, that's cool to, we can use all the help we can get :D so here's goes it



We've been having a lot of fun and had the hole fmaily around the fishing hole as well, but not much lucky learning I'm afraid, so a good guy here on BF, mqqn, sent me a package the other day of things he assures me will help out afger seeing our failed yet fun attempts ina thread I posted HERE. (Thanks Andy!)

I don't have much of a pole I guess but it's easy to pack around and it came with a pretty good (I think?) set of gear including bobbers and hooks etc, and of course being a BF member I'm not under knifed with a JK TK and GEC WO, my favorite cutting tools :D




I've looked up knots and learned a few i didn't know about so i can pretty much keep the hook on the end of the line though having not been able to try it with, say, a fish, it's hard to say. :)

Here's the stuff mqqn sent my way




I can't wait to try some of it out, and I wanted to thank Andy and maybe get some tips on how to use it at the same time, hopefully I'll be able to update with some pictures of our very own caught fish.

thanks for checking it out
 
Good luck! All three of my kids love fishing. They can spend hours with a pole in their hands, catching everything and anything.
My oldest (he's 16), is a much better fisherman than I ever was. He's one of those naturally gifted people who has a knack for it.
That's a lot of nice gear that you received. Enjoy it and enjoy the times outdoors with your kids.
If I could recommend one other piece of gear, it would be a shovel and small container of some sort. Take your kids out to the garden or good piece of grass and dig for worms. There's something about kids, dirt, and worms that is magical, at least in my opinion. And they'll feel the satisfaction of using the bait they caught to fish with.

Now get out there and make memories!

John
 
Looks like you're having a good time fishing with your boy! I hope you start catching more fish soon with all the new items
 
street soldier said:
If I could recommend one other piece of gear, it would be a shovel and small container of some sort. Take your kids out to the garden or good piece of grass and dig for worms. There's something about kids, dirt, and worms that is magical, at least in my opinion.
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thanks, will do! my son is 6 and already better then me at most things, it's pretty coll, hun? :)

Tim20637 said:
Looks like you're having a good time fishing with your boy! I hope you start catching more fish soon with all the new items
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Me to, and thanks!
 
Hi Peter -

Glad the package arrived quickly - it took me a while to get it out to you.

Here is a link to a site that shows how to tie the knot I use - use this one for all your lures until you get to more sophisticated rigging (I have not....)

http://www.animatedknots.com/improvedclinch/

Tie the swivel directly to the end of your line. I use different sizes of swivels depending on how deep I want the worm to run - I provided a nice medium weight swivel. For screw worms, it is important to use ball bearing swivels to prevent your line from twisting, you will see when you retrieve the worm how it swims....

Open the clip on the swivel and then just put the loop on the leader of the worm onto the swivel snap and lock it up.

Note - when I am fishing with kids, I will use pliers to squeeze the barbs flush on the worms, as bass tend to swallow these worms deep and it makes it easier to remove the worm from the fish's mouth. Otherwise you will have a bloody mess and possibly upset the kids.

I assume you are using a spincast reel (the kind with the big thumb-button), and that is perfect for the kids.

Have them cast the worm out as far as they can, and then count to five slowly. Then just reel the worm back into shore with a medium retrieve (warmer water, faster retrieve, colder water, slower....)

The bass will come out of cover to hit those worms, and they hit it agressively.

You will also catch the odd crappie and bluegill.

This is the easiest way to get kids to catch a nice fish.

Worms and bobbers work well also, but they are messier and take more time to deal with; I am lazy and like to watch the kids fish more than I like to play with real worms.

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It's not always a giant bass lol
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But sometimes it seems giant to the fisher-girl (in this case...)

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Looking at the pictures, I hope I sent you ball bearing snap swivels....if not, just cut the loop off of the end of the worm and tie it to the opposite end of the swivel (toward the water end, the other end of the swivel is tied to the line on your reel). Also, it looks like you have an open face spinning reel - that is tough for the little ones to master, and even for the older kids lol, but that is what I prefer. It is much easier with the spincast reels with the thumb button, Zebco and Pflueger make decent and cheap rod and reel setups.

Good luck and best regards -

mqqn
 
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You need to start an 'adopt a fishing grandpa' program. Check around your neighborhood, at church or the kid's school and see if there is a tried and true grandpa whose grandkids are all growed up or live to far away to fish with him then offer to take him fishing. He probably has all kinds of ideas of where to go and caboodles of gear that he hasn't used in ages. Hands on learning with an expert is way better than 1001 internet fishing tips from us even though we are all experts of the highest order. I would be willing to bet the kids' real grandpa's if they are close or still alive would not be offended if someone with a grandpa's heart showed them how to fish the proper way. Offer to take him out to lunch or supper after fishing....winner-winner-chicken dinner. You would probably be doing such a huge favor to a guy who needs to get out but might be hesitant to go on his own for some reason. You might even check with local memory care homes, there could be outing that would be ideal for you all to go along on and even someone with Alzheimers probably remembers some tricks and tips for fishing.

Anyhow, that would be my suggestion...draft someone local and get out for advanced training as often as you can.
 
willseeyalater said:
You need to start an 'adopt a fishing grandpa' program. Check around your neighborhood, at church or the kid's school and see if there is a tried and true grandpa whose grandkids are all growed up or live to far away to fish with him then offer to take him fishing. He probably has all kinds of ideas of where to go and caboodles of gear that he hasn't used in ages. Hands on learning with an expert is way better than 1001 internet fishing tips from us even though we are all experts of the highest order. I would be willing to bet the kids' real grandpa's if they are close or still alive would not be offended if someone with a grandpa's heart showed them how to fish the proper way. Offer to take him out to lunch or supper after fishing....winner-winner-chicken dinner. You would probably be doing such a huge favor to a guy who needs to get out but might be hesitant to go on his own for some reason. You might even check with local memory care homes, there could be outing that would be ideal for you all to go along on and even someone with Alzheimers probably remembers some tricks and tips for fishing.

Anyhow, that would be my suggestion...draft someone local and get out for advanced training as often as you can.
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Now that is a darned good idea!

best

mqqn
 
It sure is exciting to see kids fishing - I know I can't wait for mine to start! Just have to get past the 3 year old stage of wanting to grab and hold everything and the 4-8 year old stage of throwing rocks...then there's waiting to give them the fishing knife (for me it was a Schrade 80T I think). So much to look forward to.
 
When all else fails, I`ve always had good luck using Beetle Spins, especially the black and chartreuse ones.
 
mqqn said:
Hi Peter -

Glad the package arrived quickly - it took me a while to get it out to you.

Here is a link to a site that shows how to tie the knot I use - use this one for all your lures until you get to more sophisticated rigging (I have not
Good luck and best regards -

mqqn
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thanks again, Andy, we'll try it all, and yes, its a reel with no thumb button, :), i'll look for the other fella to

willseeyalater said:
You need to start an 'adopt a fishing grandpa' program. Check around your neighborhood, at church or the kid's school and see if there is a tried and true grandpa whose grandkids are all growed up or live to far away to fish with him then offer to take him fishing. He probably has all kinds of ideas of where to go and caboodles of gear that he hasn't used in ages. Hands on learning with an expert is way better than 1001 internet fishing tips from us even though we are all experts of the highest order. I would be willing to bet the kids' real grandpa's if they are close or still alive would not be offended if someone with a grandpa's heart showed them how to fish the proper way. Offer to take him out to lunch or supper after fishing....winner-winner-chicken dinner. You would probably be doing such a huge favor to a guy who needs to get out but might be hesitant to go on his own for some reason. You might even check with local memory care homes, there could be outing that would be ideal for you all to go along on and even someone with Alzheimers probably remembers some tricks and tips for fishing.

Anyhow, that would be my suggestion...draft someone local and get out for advanced training as often as you can.
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um, no grandpa of their own in sight I'm afraid but i like the idea of adopting a local, thanks!

Sturubu said:
It sure is exciting to see kids fishing - I know I can't wait for mine to start! Just have to get past the 3 year old stage of wanting to grab and hold everything and the 4-8 year old stage of throwing rocks...then there's waiting to give them the fishing knife (for me it was a Schrade 80T I think). So much to look forward to.
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If i wait for them to be out of that rock and grab stage we'll never go, lol, ah, fishing knife, now you have me thinking, Sam doe need a Jk to! :p

JK Knives said:
When all else fails, I`ve always had good luck using Beetle Spins, especially the black and chartreuse ones.
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speak of the devil! ha, thanks, I'll take a look around the local fishing isle

PatrickKnight said:
When all else fails I can normally catch a little something off a Rooster Tail or a Road Runner.
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I'll look for them to! thanks again!
 
Light hooks below slip bobbers baited with waxworms or bits of garden worms. There aren't many bluegills, catfish or perch that can ignore that. You can also use tiny glow in the dark ice jigs tipped with GULP brand worms to take crappies on the same setup. To rig slip bobbers is really easy and they are about as tangle free as you can get with kids. Suspend your bait just above weed tops and you should get some fish to be interested.
Spinners are not as kid friendly because they have to cast and reel, cast and reel and most kids will get bored with it after the second or third repetition. Give them a bobber to watch and a high chance of nibbles and they will focus better. Don't forget the gummy fruit snacks, kool aid and keep things light and giggly. If you fish plan on not doing as much as keeping the kids rigged up and in the fish zone. When the kids are done don't make them stay a lot longer than they want. A little longer is OK for learning patience but don't wear them out with it or you will be teaching them to hate fishing.

And go find a spare grandpa that likes to be around kids learning to fish so you can get more fishing yourself.
 
Something fun to say to your kids when they're getting frustrated not catching any fish "Remember, it's called Fishing, not Catching". My Grandpa use to say that to me all the time as a kid. Use to annoy me till I had kids of my own and said it to them. :)
 
I never wanted kids of my own but my nephew knows when uncle Patrick shows up he has someone who will take him fishing. The little man is a fishing genius other than the first time I took him he fell in the pond. I will never forget the look on my sister in laws face when we walked up to the back door and he was soaked from head to toe just laughing his little head off. There really is something magical about taking a little one fishing.
 
If nothing else you should always be able to catch Bream and maybe a Bass with live crickets or worms. Just a small hook, split shot and a bobber.
 
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