Fjallraven Trousers, Eddie Bauer Horizon Pants and pants in general discussion...

BOSS1

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Greetings all,

Well, I scored a pair of Fjallraven trousers off The Clymb at a fairly decent price and will be getting them a about a week or so...here's a link...I had a promo discount, so I got them for less than the listed price...but they're obviously not super cheap and not something I'll be 'stocking up' on...but when you find something a little elusive, and the one size they have left just happens to be your size, well, then maybe its a sign...;) The Clymb can be a dangerous cite...some of their offers are pretty hard to resist...enter with caution.;)

http://www.theclymb.com/show-product/139012?f=mi

They're the Arktis model, and have a mesh lining, so they're basically an insulated pant. While not super common here, pretty much everything I've researched indicates that Fjallraven (and artic fox) trouser are very well made and liked pants especially on the other side of the Atlantic. Their almost non-existent listing on the US 'bay indicates that people that have invested in them, keep them, which is a decent indicator. They have a material, G1000, that is basically something like a canvas type material that is supposed to be pretty tough stuff. They also have a pretty interesting pocking layout, as well as different cuff arrangements, from 'raw' models meant to be tailored to 'Pro models with snaps to fixed length. The Arktis are fixed length.

So in any event, wanted to see if there was anyone else with experience with Fjallraven pants here. I am interest to see who they work out. With the lining, they'll obviously be regulated to colder weather, but the older I get, the more I find that just a pair of denim jeans doesn't cut it anymore in the 'serious' cold. So these might be nice (tho I am a fan of layering that can be removed for the obvious reasons). I will also be interested in seeing how the length works out...it seems the Euros enjoy longer pants that are somewhat bagged around the bottom of their legs/boots. While I could see this as a benefit say later in the evening if you get in your tent and take your boots off, but kept the pants on, you could slip the legs down over your feet to help keep them warm, I'm generally not a huge fan of excessively long pants...these will be about 5" longer than what I normally wear...but again, these are trekking/outdoor pants...not casual around town pants...so for that purpose, they may be just find once the boots are on. We'll see.

I'll give an update once I get the pants.

I am keeping an eye out for a set of their Behrents pants if I can ever find them at a decent price (about two years ago you could find deals on them for around $50 if you got lucky, now they're 3X that amount if you can find them). Those look like they'd be a good all-around pant as well and I could tailor those to length.

I was also in a local Eddie Bauer waiting for someone else to finish up some business at the mall and searched through their clearance racks. I came across a pair of their Horizon pants in flexion material.

http://www.eddiebauer.com/product/h...290754707009542__12951078_catalog10002_en__US

These are kind of the opposite end of the spectrum...these are a super lightweight pant of stretchy (kind of hiker spandex) material. For later spring or earlier fall where you're not quite in shorts weather, these might be good. At the clearance price, I couldn't pass them up, but as per usual, I had to have them hemmed (I have a relative that's skilled in that dept. so it doesn't cost me anything). They're a decent looking semi-casual pant and pretty comfortable. But like most (all?) type synthetic pants, their major downside is they're not super camp-fire friendly:thumbdn:. Sparks will probably chew some nasty holes through these. So for an over-nighter, probably not the best pick you're planning on sitting round the flames.

Combined with my other pants from other makers, everything from basic cargo pants, to Wranger/Riggs Ranger Pants to Crag Hoppers/Bear Grylls survival trousers, I think I have most of the bases covered short of true full on mountain climbing. :thumbup:

Shall keep ya posted,
BOSS
 
I really like my craghoppers kiwi pants. I've had them for a few years now and they work for most things outdoors. They keep the sun off, dry quickly and have enough fabric to allow me to layer up underneath when necessary. Lots of zippered storage so you don't lose things. The double fabric around the knees and crotch mean they have held up well to wear and tear.

Fjällräven is solid quality but I find them tight around the thighs. They target a different kind of build, too many squats I guess. :)
 
My wife bought me some insulated Eddie Bauer cargo pants prior to a recent camping trip, and they are incredibly comfortable and warm. They seem plenty durable, so far anyway. However, my previous experience with EB pants a couple years ago couldn't have been more different. The pants ripped horizontally under one of the back pockets the first time I wore them, and being that I'm not a fat bastard and was only wearing them on a travel day (on a plane and in a car) I put them through far less wear and tear than is typical. So, I have mixed feelings about Eddie Bauer clothes in general, but I'm optimistic about the current pair.
 
My wife bought me some insulated Eddie Bauer cargo pants prior to a recent camping trip, and they are incredibly comfortable and warm. They seem plenty durable, so far anyway. However, my previous experience with EB pants a couple years ago couldn't have been more different. The pants ripped horizontally under one of the back pockets the first time I wore them, and being that I'm not a fat bastard and was only wearing them on a travel day (on a plane and in a car) I put them through far less wear and tear than is typical. So, I have mixed feelings about Eddie Bauer clothes in general, but I'm optimistic about the current pair.

Yeah, its hard to say these days with everything being imported and varying levels of QC. I had a pair some thing, (EB or Columbia?) that the first time they went through the wash, one of the side pockets (similar to a cell phone pocket) came out with a nasty tear in it. I still have them as knock-around pants, but there's a big ugly pile of repair stitching holding that area together. Had I not just bought them and they weren't an otherwise decent looking pair of pants, they'd probably go to the donation bin...

Things like that are why I am ever becoming a fan of rip-stop material. I like the weight and general feel of the material...in most cases, at least IMHO, it feels pretty durable without being too overly heavy. The reviews of some pants I've seen (far more than I normally put my pants through)shows it to be pretty tough stuff. It's also not going to suffer burn through from sparks which is nice for an outdoor pant.

The Fjallravens are supposed to be here this weekend, will post up a bit more when I get a chance to try them on.

Cheers,
BOSS
 
I just checked out some of the Fjallravens trousers with the reinforced front and they look very nice but are very pricey as well. I like to take wildlife photos and wade through a lot of brush and chest high thickets. I usually spend an hour afterwards picking the stickers off my pants. I have a pair of the short gators from Spec-Ops and they keep the stickers out of by boots. I was thinking about a pair of Carhartt bibs but the pants would be more comfortable.
 
For lightweight (on trail) hiking I either wear longjohns with a goretex shell over the top, or 5.11 taclite pro pants. Great price, durability, and they dry quickly. For off trail/hard use work, I wear Filson tin pants. Waterproof, waxed canvas pants.. They are simply the best.
 
The 5.11's TacLite's are decent pants...I have a couple pairs...just wish the rear pockets weren't so deep, ie a little more conventional...

I don't own any waxed canvas...it seems a little labor intensive in a Gortex world, but if you're off-trail and doing some serious brush busting, it probably can stand up to the abuse better than many other offerings. But can't the wax come off and stain other items?

BOSS
 
Hey Boss,
I generally only need to rewax after 3 or 4 months of use (usually a season). They are SO much tougher. Tougher than any clothing I've ever had. I am a volunteer for search and rescue, and oftentimes have to search offtrail in wet washington winters, through blackberry.. My colleagues Gore-tex have been shredded. My tin pants and tin coat are like new!
 
Hey Boss,
I generally only need to rewax after 3 or 4 months of use (usually a season). They are SO much tougher. Tougher than any clothing I've ever had. I am a volunteer for search and rescue, and oftentimes have to search offtrail in wet washington winters, through blackberry.. My colleagues Gore-tex have been shredded. My tin pants and tin coat are like new!

That says alot. Yep, Gortex is great stuff, and if you're not trying to forage through the thick stuff in SAR related activities, its probably the better choice, but for what you're doing, the Filsons and similar are, as you've seen from your experience, the better choice.

As for me, the Fjallraven's G1000 is supposed to be super tough, so I'm looking forward to seeing them tomorrow. And thinking about the leg length a bit, when I do sit down, yep, I get the 'high water' look, with a few inches of my sock or let exposed. Kind of tough have it both ways...proper length when sitting and standing. So the more I think about it, for being in the outdoors, especially in a colder environment, the longer legs will avoid the 'high water' effect, which would probably be welcome if you sit/squat/kneel in colder weather. $$ allowing, I'll be keeping an eye out for their Barents trousers (or similar) that are left 'raw' and meant to be hemmed.

Also, for anyone that might be interested, the Sportsman's Guide has some Carhartt rip-stop 'cell phone' trousers for sale. They're selling 'slightly irregular' pairs for about $25. As I say, I'm becoming a fan of rip-stop for both the feel and toughness, and I like the looks of these pants...they offer some utility without having the bulging cargo pockets and/or hammer loops on the side, which sometimes is out of place depending on the environment (corporate casual). They were even offering free shipping a day or so ago, so it might be worth checking out. Anytime I can get Carhartt Ripstop pants in the $25 range, I'll certainly consider them. These look like they'd be a good choice for folks that are in/out of both offices and light industrial areas. Just my $.02 worth.

BOSS
 
Hey Boss,
I generally only need to rewax after 3 or 4 months of use (usually a season). They are SO much tougher. Tougher than any clothing I've ever had. I am a volunteer for search and rescue, and oftentimes have to search offtrail in wet washington winters, through blackberry.. My colleagues Gore-tex have been shredded. My tin pants and tin coat are like new!

That says alot. Yep, Gortex is great stuff, and if you're not trying to forage through the thick stuff in SAR related activities, its probably the better choice, but for what you're doing, the Filsons and similar are, as you've seen from your experience, the better choice.

As for me, the Fjallraven's G1000 is supposed to be super tough, so I'm looking forward to seeing them tomorrow. And thinking about the leg length a bit, when I do sit down, yep, I get the 'high water' look, with a few inches of my sock or let exposed. Kind of tough have it both ways...proper length when sitting and standing. So the more I think about it, for being in the outdoors, especially in a colder environment, the longer legs will avoid the 'high water' effect, which would probably be welcome if you sit/squat/kneel in colder weather. $$ allowing, I'll be keeping an eye out for their Barents trousers (or similar) that are left 'raw' and meant to be hemmed.

Also, for anyone that might be interested, the Sportsman's Guide has some Carhartt rip-stop 'cell phone' trousers for sale. They're selling 'slightly irregular' (mostly seems sizing related) pairs for about $25. As I say, I'm becoming a fan of rip-stop for both the feel and toughness, and I like the looks of these pants...they offer some utility without having the bulging cargo pockets and/or hammer loops on the side, which sometimes is out of place depending on the environment (corporate casual). They were even offering free shipping a day or so ago when I ordered two pairs, so it might be worth checking out. Anytime I can get Carhartt Ripstop pants in the $25 delivered range, I'll certainly consider them. These look like they'd be a good choice for folks that are in/out of both offices and light industrial areas. Just my $.02 worth. I'll post when they arrive as well.

BOSS
 
some the best, longest lasting outdoors pants I have, came off the rack at JC Penney. Heavy fabric, lots of pockets, fit is perfect, they take anything I can dish out in the Florida/Georgia woods and swamps. Cheap.
 
Greetings,

Well, I've received both the Fjallraven Arktis pants and the Carhartt Cellphone 'irregular' pants.

The Arktis pants are pretty dang nice, I gotta admit. They look sharp, and they feel good. You definitely pay for them, but the quality is there. The insides are super comfy, and they're well designed pants. The G1000 is like a really refined canvas type material, fairly smooth and soft to the touch. I like 'em. Druthers....they are listed about 5-6 inches longer than the normal size I wear (35 inches vs. my normal ~30") but it actually seems like less due to the design of the pant. Truth be told, in a perfect world, the pants would be about 3 inches shorter, but with all the other 'pros' I can live with it. The cuffs at the bottom are small enough that they pants stop about 2 inches above the bottom of the heal on a normal outdoor style of boot, so they're not dragging around. And also, the mesh insulation lining stops about 10 inches from the bottom of the pant and is replaced by some sort of heavy duty smooth lining that would be much better for dealing with the snow, mud, etc. encountered down at the cuff end. Like I say, well thought out. And just wearing them around the house for a little bit, they're not so sweltering hot as to be uncomfortable, but we're not talking summer time heat of course either. Overall, a very nice pant. If they didn't have the lower linings and some specific extra heavy duty wear tabs on the inner heals, I'd probably hem them a bit, but like I say, with everything else they have going for them, I can live with them as they are. And as I mentioned before, the extra length keeps them from riding high and letting your ankles get exposed to cold air when sitting, squatting, kneeling, etc.. And they almost act like a gaiter around the boots too, so all good for now. Looking forward to some colder conditions to try them out in. I'll definitely be looking for deals on other Fjallraven pants.

As to the Carhartts, as far as I can tell, the only 'irregular' I can tell is the length. One set is definitely not the proper length as listed on the tag, being about 4 inches too long. The other pair seems about right, I just noted a small stitching flaw down at the bottom of one cuff...nothing really. Otherwise, they seem like a couple great pairs of genuine Carhartt pants. I am really becoming a fan of ripstop material, and these pants are pretty comfy as well, with a relaxed fit and a nice weight of material...not too thin, with enough weight to be durable. And I bet they'll be even comfier after a few washes. I really like the appearance of these as well. Very contemporary without any hammer loops, bulging side cargo pockets, or whatnot dangling around...quite suitable for corporate casual type settings. If you can sport Dockers, you shouldn't have much of a problem with these. The cell phone pocket is pretty good as well. I holds my average sized smart phone well. I should hold your iPhone 4s and similar nicely. Those of you frying your brains with the tablet phones that are about 8x10, well, you're on your own.

That being said, I have the luxury of having a very handy family member that will hem pants for me for free. If you would have to pay for that service, it is probably actually cheaper to buy the normal, non-irregular pants and just be done with it. These are nice enough that I'd probably do that in the future if they were at a decent price.

Might try and get some photos up down the road if anybody is interested.

Cheers,
BOSS
 
Couple of less-than-stellar pictures, but you get the idea. Threw on my Bellevilles to give some idea of how they fit with boots.

Cheers,
BOSS
 
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