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Flat ground in BG42 or S30V?
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GigOne
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You're absolutely correct about flat grinds not happenin' with S30V. What a shame.
And I don't think it was just flat grinds in S30V that CRK was unhappy about (quality wise). If I'm not mistaken. . .they couldn't get the flat grind quality percentages, with BG-42, high enough to produce large numbers.
Just a dream. . .but would still love to see a S30V flat grind Sebbie.
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Barry H. . .I feel you're pain in having to own one of those crappy flat grind BG-42 Sebbies. 
Relieve yourself of that nasty pain. . .and send that piece of junk to me. LOL
sygyzy. . .
You're correct. We're talking blade steel.
Not really a major issue. This subject is just talked about alot.
There were slightly over 150 flat ground blades produced. There are some who prefer hollow grinds over other types of blade grinds. There are some who prefer flat grinds over other types of blade grinds.
Those who purchased flat ground Sebbies reported superb craftsmanship, excellent fit & finish and outstanding cutting results.
I don't have the chronological sequense down pat. . .but shortly after the release of the flat ground Sebbie (in BG-42) it was announced that they weren't going to make any more. Thus making the flat grind Sebbie a limited run.
So. . .being the knife snobs that we are. . . . . .the push began (I think that it was more in the line of whining 
)to have CRK make flat grinds in S30V. The push went approx. 1" . LOL
When CRK began making their knives they used ATS-34 for their blade steel. Some time later BG-42 was considered a better blade material. . .so CRK elected to us it. When S30V hit the street. . .again CRK began changing their manufacturing to use that blade steel.
In any manufacturing process. . .as a company upgades a certain product it exhausts stock on hand (i.e., BG-42) as it's slowly introducing the new material (i.e., S30V).
Were there choices ? There were no choices in flat grinds. They were only made using BG-42.
S30V was made strictly as a blade material. In fact, Chris Reeve help create the steel (with Crucible Steel). Both BG-42 and S30V are very tough steels. S30V is tougher, retains an edge longer and doesn't have the edge chipping issues that BG-42 has.
I know that I'm missing all of the nitty gritty details while explaining the difference between BG-42 and S30V. . .but the above were the major issues.
Yes. . .as with any product. . .the new & better stuff is preferred.
Watch the other knife makers (not so much low and medium production outfits) and you'll see that they are producing knives with S30V blade steel.
Relieve yourself of that nasty pain. . .and send that piece of junk to me. LOLsygyzy. . .
You're correct. We're talking blade steel.
Not really a major issue. This subject is just talked about alot.
There were slightly over 150 flat ground blades produced. There are some who prefer hollow grinds over other types of blade grinds. There are some who prefer flat grinds over other types of blade grinds.
Those who purchased flat ground Sebbies reported superb craftsmanship, excellent fit & finish and outstanding cutting results.
I don't have the chronological sequense down pat. . .but shortly after the release of the flat ground Sebbie (in BG-42) it was announced that they weren't going to make any more. Thus making the flat grind Sebbie a limited run.
So. . .being the knife snobs that we are. . .
. . .the push began (I think that it was more in the line of whining )to have CRK make flat grinds in S30V. The push went approx. 1" . LOLWhen CRK began making their knives they used ATS-34 for their blade steel. Some time later BG-42 was considered a better blade material. . .so CRK elected to us it. When S30V hit the street. . .again CRK began changing their manufacturing to use that blade steel.
In any manufacturing process. . .as a company upgades a certain product it exhausts stock on hand (i.e., BG-42) as it's slowly introducing the new material (i.e., S30V).
Were there choices ? There were no choices in flat grinds. They were only made using BG-42.
S30V was made strictly as a blade material. In fact, Chris Reeve help create the steel (with Crucible Steel). Both BG-42 and S30V are very tough steels. S30V is tougher, retains an edge longer and doesn't have the edge chipping issues that BG-42 has.
I know that I'm missing all of the nitty gritty details while explaining the difference between BG-42 and S30V. . .but the above were the major issues.
Yes. . .as with any product. . .the new & better stuff is preferred.
Watch the other knife makers (not so much low and medium production outfits) and you'll see that they are producing knives with S30V blade steel.
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I can tell you about BG-42 chipping. I'm a carpenter and using a hollow grind BG-42 is a thing of the past for me. BG-42 is ok for carboard, shrubs and kitchen work. But it doesn't do well around construction materials. Matter of fact, for tough cutting, one really ought to go with a flat ground or convex grind. That coupled with S30v, you'll have a very rugged cutting tool for a variety of chores.
Barry H