Flea market find - sharpening stone? A little help identifying needed

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Hey everyone,

I just paid $1 for this at the flea market. I thought it was worth a shot. It's this any good? Can anyone tell me what kind of stupid this is, what it's good for, etc? It is supposed smooth. I thought it might be a good finishing stone. Thoughts?

Cheers!

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looks like a slate of some sort. usually but not always a razor finishing stone. try and see if you get a slurry. possibly a thuri.
 
Hey everyone,

I just paid $1 for this at the flea market. I thought it was worth a shot. It's this any good? Can anyone tell me what kind of stupid this is, what it's good for, etc? It is supposed smooth. I thought it might be a good finishing stone. Thoughts?

Cheers!

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It looks like a Chinese Guangxi honing stone. Need to be lapped properly before using. It used to be finishing stone before stropping for straight razor.
 
Thanks for the info! Is this type of stone used with water or oil? Also, check out the little carborundum hand held that I just got for fifty cents. Good for curved blades? Use dry/oil/water?

Cheers!

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Thanks for the info! Is this type of stone used with water or oil? Also, check out the little carborundum hand held that I just got for fifty cents. Good for curved blades? Use dry/oil/water?

Cheers!

For the chinese honing stone, I prefer to use WD40 oil instead of water. Because the stone is very hard, not absorbing water very well. I use it as a final stone before stropping for my kitchen knife.
 
Taking this Chinese stone to some fine wet/dry sandpaper on a flat surface would be okay, or would you guys take a different approach?

Thanks.
 
if it is a Chinese stone it wont cut with sandpaper quick if at all. you will need a diamond plate.
 
D'oh! :-) I guess the addiction continues with another new sharpening device.

So, is that the way I can tell if it is slated or a Chinese stone? Slate would cut faster with sandpaper?

Cheers!
 
I've been reading that guanxi stones are considered "water stones". I've also read that any oil will completely ruin a water stone. Considering this is a natural quarried stone that probably doesn't apply?
 
slate is a much softer stone than the china brick. on a good slate it is like honing on silk. I have a couple of good thuris that have that feel and one Escher I borrow from a friend once and a while for my razors. the main reason I say slate is the thickness. the Chinese brick I gave away was not over 15mm thick
 
For everyone's info, the dimensions of this stone are 5.5" x 3" x 1". I guess whether it is slate, or a guangxi stone, it will put a beautiful polish on my blades. :-)
 
Is there a cheap way of flattening this Chinese stone? Trying not to have to buy a diamond plate right now.

Any suggestions? If I did have to use a diamond plate, what grit should be used?

Any methods to get this stone into serviceable condition again would be appreciated.

Cheers!
 
Is there a cheap way of flattening this Chinese stone? Trying not to have to buy a diamond plate right now.

Any suggestions? If I did have to use a diamond plate, what grit should be used?

Any methods to get this stone into serviceable condition again would be appreciated.

Cheers!
Is the stone flat or is it hollow?


If it isn't flat, then to flatten it , the cheapest way, mark it up with a pencil
go outside,
find a section of pavement you don't mind scratching
or a concrete paver/paving stone
pour water on it, maybe toss a pinch of loose sand if you have it (speeds it up)
and then rub in figure eights ... turn stone around, rub same amount, change directions ... like sharpening making sure both sides are even
lean into it (this is for hard stones), use both hands, it is a workout

when all the pencil marks are gone its flat,
or when you can remove pencil marks in handful of passes its flat

thats the easy generic part, that makes the stone dull
not a problem if you got something like a "nagura" to raise slurry on the now flat stone

but if you don't have a "nagure" to raise a slurry,
then it requires specific grits to condition the surface or "grade" it so it cuts your knives

this is where you use the sandpaper as its available almost everywhere
something more coarser than the grit rating of your stone
apparently it only takes a few seconds , if you go longer you're just dulling the stone again

also, you may need to work up to it ... say if your stone is 2000 grit
and you just flattened it on a some 36 grit beltsander belt nailed to a piece of wood
then dont jump straight to 1500 grit sandpaper , do 100, 400, 1000 first


I've only done the flattening portion on a concrete paver on a badly dished stone, it was a workout :) about 30min of rubbing; not too bad for ~6mm of dishing ... probably won't be repeating that :)
because I have a "nagura" i can raise slurry with this is where I stopped
as thats all thats needed to get the stones to cut instead of burnish
and all my stones are coarse and cheap

I bought cheap harbor freight diamonds because I thought I'd use that to "flatten" some stones I'd buy later :) turns out thats not a great idea , esp on hard stones, that will wear out the plate ; might be ok for conditioning, but for flattening a piece of glass a tile or concrete is the better way to go

This guy has a lot of videos showing stone maintenance, he has all kinds of loose grit abrasives ...
stefanwolf88/search?query=slate
Translucent arkansas - part 1 - Stefan Wolf Short lapping/flattening/conditioning slideshow / Silicon Carbide abrasive grain in order of use: 150 400 600
 
Is there a cheap way of flattening this Chinese stone? Trying not to have to buy a diamond plate right now.

Any suggestions? If I did have to use a diamond plate, what grit should be used?

Any methods to get this stone into serviceable condition again would be appreciated.

Cheers!

Put a coarse sandpaper over glass or ceramic tile. Mark your stone surface using Sharpie. Make some vertical and horizontal line. Rub the stone until all markers gone. You can also use silicon carbide powder instead of sandpaper. For diamond plate, you can use DMT XXC 120 micron as lapping plate.
 
I would recommend silicon carbide loose grit, maybe 120-220. Use plenty of water, dish soap, and elbow grease - let the grit break down to a fine grey mud to give it a nice fine surface. Another good sized fairly smooth stone, chunk of glass or granite will work well as a backer. The stone is mighty dense and fine grained, whatever you use to lap it will leave a scratch pattern if it is a fixed abrasive like a diamond plate, loose grit will work far better.

There are other opinions/advice re this stone on some of the straight razor forums.
 
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