Hey -Can anyone share some info? I'm finally heading to the big Atlanta blade show in June and I want to bring a roll of mostly tactical folders. Will I be allowed to carry these on the plane? I'm flying out of Denver Int. If anyone has any info on this let me know --Thanks
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Flying with knives(airline regulations?)
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There has been alot of info in the past regaurding this topic. Go to the search feature in the upper right corner of this frame and type in the appropriate info and you will have ton's of info. I personally wouldn't carry anything with you on board unless you know what your doing. Put them in checked bagage and if it's a large amout money wise that's checked make sure you have insurance. Airlines don't insure bagage to high.
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BTW, I will be there too! Big show = Lot's of people and hard to find someone unless you set a time and place. Ruby Tuesday's pub in the evening's is a good place to meet formite's. It's in the Cobb Galeria where the show take's place. Hope to see ya there.
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As CJ points out, this is a common question.
Just about anything goes for edged weapons in checked baggage. Firearms must be unloaded and declared, but edged weapons in checked baggage need no special treatment. You should please be very, very careful about packing fixed blade knives in soft-sided luggage. All we need is for someone's knife to get loose inside the bag, cut itself out and end up hanging outside the bag and slash one of the baggage handlers and they'll slap us with a long list of new rules.
Carry-on is a different matter. As shadowfax illustrates, there actually is no rule. The FAA has guidelines but the guard has total discretion. This is why one person will tell of having their Micra rejected while another will brag of boarding while wearing a broadsword. It's up to the guard to decide. Different guards will decide differently. The same guard may decide differently today than he did yesterday. The same guard may permit one passenger to pass with a CQC7 and reject another with a tiny SAK because "there was something about the second guy." And who's going to question him?
As I have often said, the best solution I've found is what I call the "Innocence by Association Method (tm) (patent pending)." If you dress like a gentleman, speak like a gentleman, and act like a gentleman, then any knife you might be carrying becomes just a harmless gentleman's pocket knife by definition.
Using the "Innocence by Association Method (tm) (patent pending)," I have successfully carried my AFCK through airport security openly (just placing it in the change tray) well over a hundred times at dozens of airports coast-to-coast.
Oh, and for those of you who don't know how, I will shortly be coming out with a video "Innocence by Association Method (tm) (patent pending)" which will explain how to dress, act, and speak like a gentleman.
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Just about anything goes for edged weapons in checked baggage. Firearms must be unloaded and declared, but edged weapons in checked baggage need no special treatment. You should please be very, very careful about packing fixed blade knives in soft-sided luggage. All we need is for someone's knife to get loose inside the bag, cut itself out and end up hanging outside the bag and slash one of the baggage handlers and they'll slap us with a long list of new rules.
Carry-on is a different matter. As shadowfax illustrates, there actually is no rule. The FAA has guidelines but the guard has total discretion. This is why one person will tell of having their Micra rejected while another will brag of boarding while wearing a broadsword. It's up to the guard to decide. Different guards will decide differently. The same guard may decide differently today than he did yesterday. The same guard may permit one passenger to pass with a CQC7 and reject another with a tiny SAK because "there was something about the second guy." And who's going to question him?
As I have often said, the best solution I've found is what I call the "Innocence by Association Method (tm) (patent pending)." If you dress like a gentleman, speak like a gentleman, and act like a gentleman, then any knife you might be carrying becomes just a harmless gentleman's pocket knife by definition.
Using the "Innocence by Association Method (tm) (patent pending)," I have successfully carried my AFCK through airport security openly (just placing it in the change tray) well over a hundred times at dozens of airports coast-to-coast.
Oh, and for those of you who don't know how, I will shortly be coming out with a video "Innocence by Association Method (tm) (patent pending)" which will explain how to dress, act, and speak like a gentleman.
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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
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I've been through no less than 50-75 security check points and never had a problem. I usually have a BM705 and a Multi Tool on me (either a Supertool or a SwissTool), and usually 2-3 other blades in my carry on bag (another multi tool, a boy scout knife and an old Spyderco). Oh yeah, and I almost always have my Leatherman Micra with me.
I'm never in a suit and sometimes in jeans and a sweatshirt if I'm at an office running cable or setting up a server room.
I once even had a security guard gash (and I mean gash) her finger open trying to figure out how to close my Axis lock.
Never once been questioned or anything. I have had my bag dusted because if there are a lot of electronics in it they can't always make out what each piece is.
Best rule of thumb is to ask at the check in counter prior to security, if there is a problem check it inside your luggage.
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I'm never in a suit and sometimes in jeans and a sweatshirt if I'm at an office running cable or setting up a server room.
I once even had a security guard gash (and I mean gash) her finger open trying to figure out how to close my Axis lock.
Never once been questioned or anything. I have had my bag dusted because if there are a lot of electronics in it they can't always make out what each piece is.
Best rule of thumb is to ask at the check in counter prior to security, if there is a problem check it inside your luggage.
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While I agree that there have been a lot of posts about boarding planes, or entering airports while carrying knives, I've not seen anything -- I will search -- about carrying a significant number of knives.
I would guess that the knifemakers are the ones who best know the answer to your particular question, Mobile 1. They do it all the time. Why don't you try posing the same question in the Custom forum?
Chuck -- a very good post. I especially like the point about good packing technique. Very insightful. We don't need any more hurdles.
Please notify me when your video comes out. If I can afford it, will try to make sure shadowfax gets a copy.
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I would guess that the knifemakers are the ones who best know the answer to your particular question, Mobile 1. They do it all the time. Why don't you try posing the same question in the Custom forum?
Chuck -- a very good post. I especially like the point about good packing technique. Very insightful. We don't need any more hurdles.
Please notify me when your video comes out. If I can afford it, will try to make sure shadowfax gets a copy.
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Having worked several airports in a federal law enforcement career here are some suggestions. Each airport has it's own rules and regs regarding knives. Generally if it's under 3"-3 1/2" a slipjoint, not a doubled edged "sticker" or "dirk" blade, and looks like a standard "pocket knife" you are safe. Locking blades raise eyebrows and tactical style knives are a no-no. Worse case I ever had was a flight out of So. America to Miami where a nut "heard voices" stood up, pulled out a Buck 110 and slashed the throat of the guy sitting in front of him (victim lived)so bad things can happen when big knives are allowed on airplanes. If you are stoped at the security checkpoint you either have to give the knife to a friend (who isn't flying and can't proceed any further)or leave the knife with the security people if you want to catch your flight which means you will never see you knife again. Best bet is to contact the airline at your point of departure (both ways)and see what policy is. They will probably tell you to put it in your check in baggage but you will run the risk of loss or possible theft. Guns are a whole different matter but that isn't the question. You might want to consider UPS or FedEx (Insurance is a must here) to you at your destination. Remember if you have a layover and leave the security area and have to check back in through the checkpoint it could be a whole new set of rules and regs at THAT airport. Most rules and regs at airports are made up and enforced by local law enforcement in conjunction with the local port or airport commision. Federal rules and regs come into play when you enter the airplane and the door closes and having a knife on your person is not a violation unless it is used during a crime aboard the aircraft (just having a gun on your person is a crime unless you are law enforcement, have checked in etc.) Again each airline and airport has it's own policy so it can be a grey area concerning knives. Hope this helps. Good Luck Weldonk
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First, howdy to the forum!
I'm employed as service manager for a manufacturer of industrial equipment and travel by air several times a year, both domestic and overseas. I carry a smallish SAK pocket knife and a PECK on my keychain, and have never had a problem with airport security. I pack a small tool kit, my Gerber multi-tool, and my EDC lockback in my check-in baggage, to be retrieved at the first opportunity after arriving at my destination.
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I'm employed as service manager for a manufacturer of industrial equipment and travel by air several times a year, both domestic and overseas. I carry a smallish SAK pocket knife and a PECK on my keychain, and have never had a problem with airport security. I pack a small tool kit, my Gerber multi-tool, and my EDC lockback in my check-in baggage, to be retrieved at the first opportunity after arriving at my destination.
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Just 'cause yer paranoid don't mean someone ain't out to get ya!
Thank you all for the responses. I've never had any problems flying with just one knife before but was mainly worried about taking a large roll. I wanted to travel light and not have to check any baggage (not to mention let my roll out of site!) but will probably have to insure and check them. I don't have a table at the show but am assuming there is a lot of horsetrading and bartering going on everywhere. If all goes well I wont have to worry about the way back! THanks!
