Folding knife with Carabiner? Leatherman? Buck? Boker Plus? Or what?

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Sir Joe

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Hi guys,

I am happy that I have no money or I will spend it in knives.
But on the other sides if I had more money I will spend less time trying to decide which knife to buy. I will just buy all of them.

Anyway. It is as it is.
So I would like to buy a medium size (6 to 10 cm long blade) foldable knife, probably with plane blade, maybe half waved.

I have bought this little cheap thing called Eden 100. It looks not so much different than a Buck Apex. Also frame lock (but it does not make me feel very sure).
But its blade is too short and the steel not so good.

I want it with Carabiner because I can have it hanging from my Worker Pouch which is attached to my belt.
I am a very inpatient guy so I need all to be quick. I hate when I have to lose 10 seconds searching a little knife in my pocket (which gloves dirt of ground).

I like the look of the Böker Plus Karabiner a lot. I like the fact that a part of the blade is curve and a part is not.
But I do not like much frame lock, and I do not like the fact that it is one side edged only. I may be influenced by this cheap thing I have (also one side edged), but I have the impression that one side edged knives do not cut well. Is it just my impression?
And, what if when I sharpen it I do the edge also from the other side?

I have then discovered the Buck. You will find this incredible but being a total newbie I did not know this Brand.
I see that it is loved here. So it must be good.
They make some models with Carabiner.

Leatherman makes the Crater. I was tempted to buy one with Screwdriver but I think it is one of those childish wishes you know, you think that more is more but you finally will never use that screwdrivers.
Anyway,it looks good and they have a version (the c33L and C33T) with a quick opening.

I also see other brands making such tools. Minor brands.

I wonder if you are aware of a really good one.
I was thiking about $50.
I could push me more if I wait.
But I would only push me more if really very much more beautiful and/or very much better than the Böker and Leatherman and Buck.

Cheers!
 
I would get a decent folder with a normal pocket clip. I have a buck with a carabiner and its really not very convenient to remove from what you clip it too. I would suggest one of the waved kershaw emerson imports if $50 is your limit and you want quick. You might also consider the kershaw link which is a USA made assisted opening flipper in your price range as well. I just think carabiners are great to clip as a back up but they drive me nuts trying to get to them in a hurry. Kinda like its teasing you because its right there but difficult to operate in a flash.
 
KAI, the parent company of ZT & Kershaw made a decent one. Don't know if they're discontinued, you might be able to find one. Mines been clipped on my pack for years now. I've used it a bunch n I like it very much. However, I don't & wouldn't rely on it. I always have a bunch of knives that will fill all my needs. It always there on my pack, I forgot till I read this thread, but that's why it's where it is. Sometimes stuff happens n it's better than nothing if it came to that. Good luck


The kershaw function looks like it might suit, especially with the assisted deployment.
 
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The Leatherman Crater is decent. If you can find one of the Expanse (discontinued), those have a 154CM blade.

The Kershaw Funxion series also has carabiners.
 
Another option, buy any knife you want that has a lanyard hole in the butt; kabar Dozier or Ontario rat2 for example, and add a paracord loop or a key ring to the hole and use a regular caribiner to attach it... Your world if choices just grew exponentially!!!
 
Well, I have a little problem with choices. If I have infinite choices I tend to lose infinite time choosing.
Same reason why I stubbornly stuck to Bluetooth Headphones (becoming one of the reference experts on the matter) even if with a bluetooth Adapter I could have used any good headphone and spent less.
but you are also right and I do not exclude your idea (which I had already thought about, actually).
I will anyway try to find a good knife with Carabiner first.

So, The Leatherman is ok, good to know.
I also see they make a multitool with Carabiner which also has got a sort of Snipper. I may think about it, as a gardener.
But, let's stick to knives now.

Kershaw Funxion looks good to me.
Pity that it only comes in half waved blade. I am not yet sure that I want that.
I think I would only use it for ropes but having the cord cutter I am fine with that and I would prefer a plane blade.
The Steel is simple 8 blabla. Why should this be much better than the Leatherman?
Yeah I know the steel is only one aspect, the Heat treatment is even more important, but Kershaw do not mention anything about that.

Anyway, looks nice, thanks, I consider it together with Leatherman and Böker Karambit now. And together with the Buck.
Are Buck good?
 
Forgot to say, I have a special part of my working case, where I can hold a knife with carabiner. It goes very very fast at least with my Eden 100, so I think I should be fine with that. Really easy to take.
 
I don't have any first hand experience with the Buck Apex persay, but plenty of other bucks, and their 420hc steel is as good as your gonna find in an entry level knife using the same steel, and their warranty is forever, no questions asked, so if it breaks you send it in and get it fixed it replaced no hassle... Best warranty on the planet IMO.
 
I've had this little thing for well over 8 years. Under $10 bucks and just keeps on serving. Isn't the Kershaw one, this is just the no name cheapy one. The bottle opener comes in handy after the shifts over too :thumbup:

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Ok, Kershaw Funxion not available in Germany.

I had a look to the Leatherman Skeletool CX.
The Knife is on the short size, 6,6cm, but can be opened with one hand without opening the whole tool.
It is 154Cm steel, particularly heat treated (more heat treated than how they treat their 420HC).

I like it.
I think I will go with that.

Otherwise I should buy a Buck FlashPoint, 420HC, just knife.
Or a Leatherman Crater c33L.
Or a Böker Plus Karambit (I really like this a lot. My only concenr is it being sharpened on one side only, and it being of an inferior steel. But I may buy it one day when I have more money, just to have it).
The Funxion is really cool, I like a lot the fact that it has got a rope/wire cutter. But, I am not fond of ordering from overseas and staying at the mercy of the German Custom.

Does anything else occur to you as a good option? Can be knife or multitool (no idea if there is any other good multitool producer out there).
As long as it is hard and keeps the edge well, and has got a Carabiner.

Cheers

EDIT: I have left the draft for hours and in the while there are two new replies :)
So, yes I have read about the 420HC of Buck being maybe the best 420HC of the planet for how they treat it.
But I also read that the 154CM keeps the edge much better and on the Leatherman is specially heat treated. I suppose it should be better than Buck?
But anyway I am sure it will be very good. And in the while I have other useful tools.
I am still not 100% sure and, besides, it is possible that i have to wait one month, as said, because for this one I will already have to pay other things.
So, games are still open :)

The little toy on the picture I have seen it everywhere online, yeah, I admit it has got its appeal. But no blade lock. No go for me.
Although for a while I was thinking about trying this.

Other alternatives are:
Gerber Crevice or Descent
Laguiole (apparently a OEM Brand. Couple of nice looking knives with Carabiner).
Sanrenmu
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Sanrenmu 4077MUC-SK. Carabiner as tang and bottle opener. Blade a bit on the short side though (5cm / 2").

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Ok, I may have found a local distributor who may order the Kershaw for me.
I am not convinced with the 8cr13mov, and with the combined blade (half waved).
But I like the cord cutter.

But personally I am more with Leatherman now.
Skeletool CX or Expanse E55B.
Reason is: 154CM steel, and more than just a knife (specially with the Skeletool).
Given that I am 90% sure that the choice is between them two, I have opened a thread for that on the right forum.

But in case some wonderful knife with carabine occurs to you, let me know here :)

@Etna, so, are those Sanrenmu any good? I had the impression they were some cheap chines thing.
 
Sir Joe said:
I had a look to the Leatherman Skeletool CX.
The Knife is on the short size, 6,6cm, but can be opened with one hand without opening the whole tool.
It is 154Cm steel, particularly heat treated (more heat treated than how they treat their 420HC).

I like it.
I think I will go with that.

Otherwise I should buy a Buck FlashPoint, 420HC, just knife.
Or a Leatherman Crater c33L.
Or a Böker Plus Karambit (I really like this a lot. My only concenr is it being sharpened on one side only, and it being of an inferior steel. But I may buy it one day when I have more money, just to have it).
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Sir Joe said:
But personally I am more with Leatherman now.
Skeletool CX or Expanse E55B.
Reason is: 154CM steel, and more than just a knife (specially with the Skeletool).
Given that I am 90% sure that the choice is between them two, I have opened a thread for that on the right forum.

But in case some wonderful knife with carabine occurs to you, let me know here :).
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How can you get these given the German law against one-hand opening knives that lock? I thought all your one-hand openers had to be slipjoints, and your locking folders had to be two-handed.
 
Hmmm. I am not sure about that. I am not German.
I will have to ask to the Police I suppose.
I think that for the Skeletool there will be no problem, after all Leatherman is well known for making Multitools, people would not even come to the idea of checking if the knife in the tool can be opened with one hand.
But, as said, I really do not know.
I have just supposed that if they sell it, it must be possible to use it.
 
Take a look at the DPx Hit. There are at least two blade shapes to suit your needs.
 
They look very original, and with a very good steel.
I like the coming soon Skinner better.
Also because the blade is a bit longer than the Cutter.
But wow, the price!
It is not something I can buy now.
But you guessed the direction.
If I am going to buy a knife instead of (or in addition to) the Skeletool, it must be a very good knife. Better than the Leatherman E55.
Otherwise it makes no sense.
 
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