Folding Pry-bars.

Lycosa

Lycosa

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Gang- Years back, I got an SnG and was really impressed but eventually sold it. I felt that it was overkill. But, after I read Duane Dwyer's philosophy behind the overbuilt folder, I got an other SnG. And now, I have a Buck 881 incoming and this knife will be in my EDC rotation. My Para1 is my mainstay EDC but I like the fact that (IF) I need to use a folder in an extreme situation, the over built folder makes sense. The over built folder is here to stay. Who thinks the same way?
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I totally get the idea behind the overbuilt folder. I really like to be prepared and I really like knowing that, should the situation arise, I could use my folder to pry/bash my way to safety. Even though I may not abuse it on a regular basis, I like knowing that I could.

With that being said, I think that a lot of this depends on the person. In all honesty, I'm a freaking guidance counselor. I have zero actual need for an overbuilt folder, nor will I find myself in an extreme situation (probably). Recently, I've started to move away from the overbuilt thing and more toward knives that excel at cutting and slicing.

Again, this is just my opinion. For the right person, I think a massively overbuilt folder is a great option and I think that, in the right situation, they can instill a lot of confidence. However, for me, I've started to match my EDCs to what I will typically use them for rather than what might happen.

I still find myself drawn toward the occasional OBF (overbuilt folder acronym?) though!
 
Any knife above a slip-joint.
Vermont: I totally agree. A Sodbuster is all the knife I really need. But, it's nice to fly a jet sometimes in place of the prop plane. lol!
 
Personally, I feel that the whole "folding-prybar" thing is goofy. I'm a construction worker, and there has never been a situation where I've been stuck with only my folder to pry open a manhole or something similar.

If someone likes the look of thick stock folders for aesthetical reasons, then more power to them. However, if they think that their folder will compete with a prybar, then they are foolish imo...
 
No folder can double as a prybar. Prying with a knife, say prying up a chuck on wood from a log is more along the lines of prying for a folder. Maybe popping open a bedroom door in a house but a full blown pry bar?
 
Lycosa man, you're killing me! :D


Knives are 100% meant to cut things, and that is 100% all that they are ever supposed to do if the term "knife" is used to describe them, especially if the word "folding" comes before it. You COULD pry things with them, just like you COULD drive nails with a baseball bat, but neither is using the right tool for the job, and as such it is ludicrous for anyone to buy a knife with anything other than cutting in mind. I'm not sure why knives are the only tools that got stuck with "do it all" in their job descriptions. Why not forks? Why not hammers? Why is it that everyone knows exactly what those two are meant for, picking up food and driving nails respectively, yet knives are expected to do more than cut?

The philosophy behind overbuilt folders is BS quite frankly. Carrying overbuilt folders is just something that makes some of us feel happy, and I definitely have no problem with that. But coming up with philosophies to rationalize it is just plain stupid and more than anything else, unnecessary. Just carry what you like and screw the haters. I myself have an SNG because the design appeals to me certain days of the week. But I certainly didnt buy it expecting to pry open car doors, nor do I cite those types of hypothetical tasks in an attempt to rationalize my carrying of the knife. I just like it so Ill carry it, simple as that.
 
I loved the 880 Buck/Strider.

If you like overbuilt, check the specs on the Coogler Kerambit I have on order.



Overall Length: 8"

Blade Length: 3.25"*

Blade Thickness: .213"

Handle Length: 5.5""

Blade Material: CPM 154

Handle Material:*.187" thick*6AL4V Titanium*

Locking Mechanism:*Framelock

Inner Ring Diameter: 1"

Extra Feature:*Ball Bearing Pivot System
 
Personally I love ZT's, carry one or another most days. I dont want a thin blade knife unless it is three inches or less, i like thick robust knives. All I ask for is it to cut well. Im not planning on using it as my main kitchen knife but i will use it to cut my lunch. I want it for the what if, what ever I need it to do. My ZTs fit my needs.

Now what I dont understand is large handled knives with considerably shorter blades. Don't get me started on that.:rolleyes:
 
OP: BM Adamas

Otherwise, I am not a subscriber to that train of thought, I prefer to use the widgy bar on my key chain as a pry bar and my sodbuster, large 21, Vic SAK or otherwise to cut things...

I do have two exceptions, my beer scout and my DPx Heat pry caps like they were designed to.

...wait a second. ;)
 
cEdge said:
Personally I love ZT's, carry one or another most days. I dont want a thin blade knife unless it is three inches or less, i like thick robust knives. All I ask for is it to cut well. Im not planning on using it as my main kitchen knife but i will use it to cut my lunch. I want it for the what if, what ever I need it to do. My ZTs fit my needs.

Now what I dont understand is large handled knives with considerably shorter blades. Don't get me started on that.:rolleyes:
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Some people don't want to break laws, but still want to be able to comfortably handle their knives
 
aquaman67 said:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ustom-made-folder-with-a-0-5-quot-thick-blade

If ever there was a "folding pry bar" this would be it.
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Someone's overcompensating there!

I like a OBF sometimes. I have an Adamas, a Buck/Topps TSAR thing, and a couple heavyish other blades. I've never used on as a prybar. Not a chance in Hell I'm betting on that as a good plan They are nicer for cutting heavy straps and zip ties, IMHO.

I have pry bars, and even a huge screwdriver for prying....

BTW, C Edge: Full handle/short blades are great for super accurate or shallow cutting. Also as great box openers or utility knives.
 
Krissig12 said:
Lycosa man, you're killing me! :D


Knives are 100% meant to cut things, and that is 100% all that they are ever supposed to do if the term "knife" is used to describe them, especially if the word "folding" comes before it. You COULD pry things with them, just like you COULD drive nails with a baseball bat, but neither is using the right tool for the job, and as such it is ludicrous for anyone to buy a knife with anything other than cutting in mind. I'm not sure why knives are the only tools that got stuck with "do it all" in their job descriptions. Why not forks? Why not hammers? Why is it that everyone knows exactly what those two are meant for, picking up food and driving nails respectively, yet knives are expected to do more than cut?

The philosophy behind overbuilt folders is BS quite frankly. Carrying overbuilt folders is just something that makes some of us feel happy, and I definitely have no problem with that. But coming up with philosophies to rationalize it is just plain stupid and more than anything else, unnecessary. Just carry what you like and screw the haters. I myself have an SNG because the design appeals to me certain days of the week. But I certainly didnt buy it expecting to pry open car doors, nor do I cite those types of hypothetical tasks in an attempt to rationalize my carrying of the knife. I just like it so Ill carry it, simple as that.
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I tend to agree on folders but for me the only reason to carry a fixed is for its strength and that includes prying if needed. For me the perfect tool for the job on a hike is a fixed blade that can pry and scrape a bit. Hatchets just aren't it for the small kindling I make nor is a prybar viable for breaking up stumps for fatwood. Neither is right for the conditions of the job. "The right tool for the right job" gets said a lot. Not much is said about the job or more importantly, the conditions of the job.
 
I can see the appeal of both the slicer and the obf for different jobs.
 
Since I can't legally conceal a fixed blade here, my folders MUST be overbuilt ;)
 
Not again, I don't need to spine wack my knife, have a hammer for that, I don't need to pry with my knife, have a pry bar for that. What's the fixation with this subject of needing a folding knife to do everything but cut? Oh well,
 
The great thing about specific knives (Strider is a great example) is that they can do many things besides cut...

They are built to be able to pry and chop very effectively, (obviously within limits)

You do give up some slicing ability, but I have never owned a Strider that wasn't a very capable cutter.

This notion that a knife is ONLY a cutting tool is a limit that is placed on it by the user. (There are also knives that are not built to handle anything more then cutting)

I agree that the right tool should be used for the right job, unfortunately, life is not so predictable, and not too many of us carry a tool bag with us when we go for a day hike, or even for a weekend camping trip..

I have gone out to my shed in the middle of winter only to find that the slide lock had frozen and I couldn't move it.
I guess I could take a mini prybar or a screwdriver with me, but I can guarantee you that I will forget it more times than not...
I could trek it back to the house, find a screwdriver, or just use the my SMF that's already in my pocket to pry it open.
(That's exactly what I do)

The thing is, it's impossible to carry all the tools you might need with you all day, everyday, everywhere.
Nobody here knows what the day may bring, and what tools you wish you had with you.....the one tool most of us carry 24/7-365 will be a knife in your pocket, so why not make that knife as versatile as possible?
 
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