Food and activities for 4 day camp?

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So I always called myself an agnostic but that never quite fit because I do have beliefs I just didn't think there was a name for it. Anyway, surfing the web I came across Pantheism which is a Pagan belief and it closely matches my beliefs so I guess I'm Pagan. Who'd a thunk it.:confused: Long story short I found a Pagan Festival this July in the gorge so I said what the heck I'll check it out. The price was about what it would cost to camp at a site for 4 days anyways. Now I don't believe in rituals and that crap so if I get there and they're a bunch of weirdos, I want some activities I can do on my own. So if you guys have good carving projects or other bushcrafty projects that are relatively easy for a newb, that would be great. Also, I've never been camping for 4 days so I'm not really sure how to pack food for that long. I'll have a cooler so it's not really roughing it but the only cooking gear I have is a mini-trangia cookset. I'm figuring ramen, bread, packets of tuna, maybe some hot dogs. Would like to try some older recipes though like fry bread and others if you have suggestions.
 
Bring lots of bacon. Especially if you have a cast iron skillet. If you have cast iron and don't bring bacon, you deserve to get beaten to a pulp with your own skillet.

Eggs as well.

Bring some burger, taters, veggies, and a bunch of aluminum foil. You can make "hobo packs" with that. Use some butter in with them and, if so desired, season them up good.

Carve yourself a spoon and a kuksa.

There are a few ideas from me.
 
how about baking bread??? I saw a show in youtube where ray mears baked his bread with the ashes of a fire he had just put out...

you can go hunting for fatwood... make a bowdrill and start a fire with that...
hike around the area and make yourself a good pair of hiking sticks...
 
I totally insist on pics of the pagan festival!:thumbup:;)

It has been my experience that a lot of pagans are city slickers that really don't know much about the earth.

Where a lot of the country folks who call themselves bible thumping Christians and rednecks often are more truly pagan than the pagans:D

Not all of course because I know a number of farming, gardening pagans that live in the woods but they would be the minority.

There was a really great article printed in the old GNOSIS magazine that sort of got to the heart of what I'm talking about that sort of gets to the heart of what I'm talking about>


Nature Religion for Real


Copyright 1998 by Chas S. Clifton
Originally published in GNOSIS 48 (Summer 1998)
http://www.chasclifton.com/papers/forreal.html
 
hollowdweller said:
I totally insist on pics of the pagan festival!:thumbup:;)

It has been my experience that a lot of pagans are city slickers that really don't know much about the earth.

Where a lot of the country folks who call themselves bible thumping Christians and rednecks often are more truly pagan than the pagans:D

Not all of course because I know a number of farming, gardening pagans that live in the woods but they would be the minority.

There was a really great article printed in the old GNOSIS magazine that sort of got to the heart of what I'm talking about that sort of gets to the heart of what I'm talking about>


Nature Religion for Real


Copyright 1998 by Chas S. Clifton
Originally published in GNOSIS 48 (Summer 1998)
http://www.chasclifton.com/papers/forreal.html
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Thanks for the link I'll check it out. My beliefs don't end at the city border though. Everything is connected even man made things or even garbage. Love of nature is great but why stop there? Why not love everything?
 
Oh and from the same article a few quotes that might be ideas:

Many modern Pagans idealize prehistoric times, as depicted fictionally in works such as Jean Auel's Clan of the Cave Bear. One thing we can say about those people is that they knew their landscape well. Yet I meet so many followers of "earth religion" who have no idea of the source of their drinking water, no knowledge of the history of the land where they live, both its human history and its "wild" history, the history of its nonhuman people, so to speak.

Would not there be a connection between the symbolic element of water and the water that we drink? Should not people who give themselves magical names about hawks and wolves and bears at least look one of those animals in the eye outside of a zoo? And how come no one ever has a white-breasted nuthatch (for example) as a power animal. Is it because there is no such bird in a box of Animal Crackers? Have the people who claim those names really connected with the animal in its habitat or are they just projecting their desires for power?

One answer for ourselves might come in questioning what we really know about where we live. Back in 1981, the magazine CoEvolution Quarterly (now known as Whole Earth Review) published a quiz on basic bioregional knowledge called "Where You At?" A "bioregion" is a loose term for a watershed or an ecological zone with common characteristics. Some bioregions are fairly easy to envision, such as the Florida Everglades. Other zones might require subdivision, such as the High Plains/shortgrass prairie or the entire Great Basin.

Almost no one, me included, could answer all the questions on the quiz without some research and thought. But one of the definitive characteristics of modern Pagans is that we are not adverse to the scientific way of knowing. We take it and blend it with the knowledge that we gain in other ways. Thus knowing that my "soil series" is "Larkson stony loam" can enrich and add texture to what I think about when I think about the symbolic element of Earth.
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Some of my co-religionists may object to the collection of such basic scientific data as precipitation or soil series. You cannot find such data at the average metaphysical bookstore. When I took a Foundation for Shamanic Studies "spirits of nature" workshop once, we communed with rocks, but no one ever wondered aloud just what sort of rocks these were or how they came to be where they are. Our only focus was on what the rocks were "telling" us for our personal anthropocentric good. An uncharitable outsider might have said that we were merely "projecting" our wishes onto the rocks.

Rather than trying to be revived ancient Somebodies-or-Other, rather than trying to adapt or adopt Native spirituality (which is itself inconsistent and in a state of flux with many variations), I would rather see my fellow Pagans focus on becoming rooted. I am not proposing some agrarian fantasy of instant peasant-hood here, nor am I ruling out people's needs or desires to move around occasionally. But when we are in a place, let's be in. Let us truly learn from it and learn about it. Let us feel its tides and changes in our lives. I think that someone who knows the flow of water, the songs of birds, and the needs of grasses has a basic store of knowledge that puts flesh on the claim she makes that something is "sacred."
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There is a quiz in the article that might be worth working up for where you are going.
 
hollowdweller said:
I totally insist on pics of the pagan festival!:thumbup:;)

It has been my experience that a lot of pagans are city slickers that really don't know much about the earth.

Where a lot of the country folks who call themselves bible thumping Christians and rednecks often are more truly pagan than the pagans:D

Not all of course because I know a number of farming, gardening pagans that live in the woods but they would be the minority.

There was a really great article printed in the old GNOSIS magazine that sort of got to the heart of what I'm talking about that sort of gets to the heart of what I'm talking about>


Nature Religion for Real


Copyright 1998 by Chas S. Clifton
Originally published in GNOSIS 48 (Summer 1998)
http://www.chasclifton.com/papers/forreal.html
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used to have some neighbors who were sorta on the fundamentalist side. good folks and took care of home and neighbors. anyhoos one day their young daughter, she was around 5 or so at the time, asked me if i went to church. i said yes almost everyday. she looked at me surprised. it was a summer i was unemployed and went mtn biking in the woods nearly every single day. and thats what i told her. every time i wander into the woods im in church.
 
Shotgun said:
Thanks for the link I'll check it out. My beliefs don't end at the city border though. Everything is connected even man made things or even garbage. Love of nature is great but why stop there? Why not love everything?
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:thumbup:

I'm with you.
 
sadiejane said:
every time i wander into the woods im in church.
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There is a place in my woods we call "the finger" and it's a narrow bit of land with two drains on either side that runs from the ridge on the back of my land down to the hollow.

About half way down there is sort of a flat place where you can stand and I'm surrounded by these trees and then I'm eye level with about the middle third of some other big trees across the hollow.

Now I've lived here and owned these woods (or they own me) for 22 years and you know you've been there a while when you can appreciate how much bigger an oak tree is than when you first were there.

And after hunting and spending a lot of time in the woods setting and hiking too I come close to actually "knowing" every big or unusual tree on my 66 acres behind my place. The 15 I own across the road not so much but I know some.

Anyway a lot of times I stop on that little flat and I can feel that the trees feel me and I appreciate how big they are and some of the surrounding land has been logged and I tell them "as long as I live I'll never do that to you" and I'm not against logging really, I have a degree in Forestry and I'd even cut maybe some pines or poplars or some short lived fast growing stuff but the big trees, the ones I know personally I sort of have a special relationship with.

My dream is to find a church, or a school, or some environmental organization that I can will my land to, with the stipulation it will be used for nature study, all the buildings removed and the trees will never be cut.:thumbup:
 
That was a really nice article Hollowdweller. I really enjoyed it and found the author infinitely reasonable. The kind of guy I'd love to share a campfire with.

hollowdweller said:
There is a place in my woods we call "the finger" and it's a narrow bit of land with two drains on either side that runs from the ridge on the back of my land down to the hollow.

About half way down there is sort of a flat place where you can stand and I'm surrounded by these trees and then I'm eye level with about the middle third of some other big trees across the hollow.

Now I've lived here and owned these woods (or they own me) for 22 years and you know you've been there a while when you can appreciate how much bigger an oak tree is than when you first were there.

And after hunting and spending a lot of time in the woods setting and hiking too I come close to actually "knowing" every big or unusual tree on my 66 acres behind my place. The 15 I own across the road not so much but I know some.

Anyway a lot of times I stop on that little flat and I can feel that the trees feel me and I appreciate how big they are and some of the surrounding land has been logged and I tell them "as long as I live I'll never do that to you" and I'm not against logging really, I have a degree in Forestry and I'd even cut maybe some pines or poplars or some short lived fast growing stuff but the big trees, the ones I know personally I sort of have a special relationship with.

My dream is to find a church, or a school, or some environmental organization that I can will my land to, with the stipulation it will be used for nature study, all the buildings removed and the trees will never be cut.:thumbup:
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That's a really cool personal post too. It says a lot about you. I really respect that.
 
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