For SW knife dertractors: Bill Moran sharpens big SW 1000 and likes its steel!

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Ivan

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I guess this is for the detractors of SW knives which I personally have found to be good, solid knives. I sold a used SW1000 to a friend of mine. He gave it to a friend of his who knows Bill Moran very well and has in fact written a book about Mr. Moran. Mr. Moran sharpened the knife. The description I got was that "sparks were flying" as the knife was being sharpened and the early impression of the knife as just common stainless was quickly changed. I understand Mr. Moran was impressed with the steel of the blade. The knife is again razor sharp like it was brand new. I just dont understand where some people(but not all that is for sure) get their ve ry negative views on this forum concening SW knives. To me, the opinion of someone like Bill Moran tells me a lot about a knifes quality. What do you all think?
 
What are you saying? what knid of steel is it? I knew someone who had one of their Swat knives, and man was that a pos! Thats where i got my negative perspective about their knives. Its steel was 440, one of the most common stainless steels there is. Please Elaborate.
Andrew
 
Have you ever seen someone overlook the inadequacies of another's possessions in order to be pleasant???

And so what, I mean Bill Moran is cool, but who cares if he like the knife, who cares if I like the knife, who cares if anyone likes the knife?

It is going in your pocket, if you like it, find it to suit your purposes, who gives a 'you know what' if the rest of us like it.

Ignore our opinion, not all will agree with you, ever. Discern the truth for yourself, and if that sets you apart, super....

I don't care for their knives because they are made in the world's largest political prison, China. And the clip is held on with the pivot pin, and the locks fail.....

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I guess it could not have been common stainless steel. But the compostion of the steel must have been something very good. Perhaps those SW1000 pre production knives have better steel in their bLADES. All I can say at this point is that Mr. Moran was impressed with the steel in the blade of that particular knife. My friend did say he was told by the man who gave Bill Moran the knife to sharpen that carbon steel was mentioned. One thing is certain. No one called this particular knife a pos. That is good because I was the one who sold it to my friend! One could lose friends that way. But I had complete confidence in this type of knife or other SW knives i have owned,sold, or have on my possesion now. I think it is neat that Bill Moran sharpened it! I would like to buy that knife back ,but I wont get it back!
 
I can't speak for anyone else, but the knives seem just a couple of notches up from the "any knife for $5" bin at gun and knife shows. They just seem kinda flimsy. I don't know, call me a snob....
 
People who use good steels in their knives typically tout what it is. S&W (or more properly, Taylor Cutlery) tends to use 440A, not the best of steels.

I'm sure Mr Moran was able to put a great edge on the blade, and I'm also sure that sparks were indeed flying. Unless something changed when I wasn't looking, though, the blade steel was 440... draw your own conclusions.

Spark

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I'm sure Mr. Moran - or just about any other knifemaker with his many years experience - could put a nice edge on any knife. How long that edge will last under use is the real question. And somehow I doubt if Mr. Moran will be switching his knife production over to 440A stainless. :-)

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I may be wrong, but I think that some of the <u>older</u> SWAT S&W knives, with blackened blades, used 1095 or some such carbon steel, instead of stainless. They were definitely marketed as NOT stainless in the catalogs that I saw them in. If that is truly the case, then I would expect that Mr. Moran could put an awesome edge on it, and it <u>may</u> actually hold it pretty well. Of course, it is still a liner lock, which in and of itself would prevent me from buying it, even if it was only $2.

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FWIW, I'm also against patronizing the Chinese slave masters.
YMMV, of course.

Regards,

Leo Daher
 
Oh yeah...S&W have great knives i know a guy that bought one for $23.43. And let me tell you he was a proud man...He thought he got the best deal of the century; that is until he started to use it. Just as an example to what a grat knife it is, the coating on the blade chipped off from just cutting rope and then, there is the fact that it is a 440 A blade.
Great work Smith and Wesson
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(just stick to making guns)

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SW knives are not made in commie China. I am sure of that. ROC yes, (Taiwan)but NOT Red China.
 
Ivan,

I am not sure where they are made now but the first coming in were in fact made in china. They were marked on I think the pivot pin PRC. We all know what that means. Course the boxes said made in the USA. Bold are they not? Course maybe the boxes were made in the USA. hahaha I think they are now made in Taiwan but I will not swear to it.


Regards,

Tom Carey
 
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