For Those Quietly Walk Who Carry The Load

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This last week, which has been a confusing and 'rocky' one for me personally, (Did I tell you yet the wonderful story of our return to Rift Raft Car Salesmen?) also had a window. IN all the selfishness, love given, love taken, screams cries whines and pleadings: "No Daddy, I wanted the Peanut butter bumpers cereal too (Keith had to settle for Cocoa Krispies. We didn't get Cocoa Krispies when I was a boy. They cost too much and we weren't allowed 'desert for breakfast'.) I saw a little peek into a class act, and this lightened my own load. There are people all around us, giving. The giving goes everywhere, to Nepal and Reno and in dim rooms and bright ones, even in the munk compound. Yangdu says we all suffer while we're here. There is suffering all around. There is pain carried along without a complaint or a word for even a nod of sympathy. We all do in different ways, but my respect this morning is going out to all those who quietly go about their lives without asking for help, giving it instead.

What do you say to these people?

Thanks.

Thanks for the bright Light. It sure helps me walk easier; I can see the Path.

I probably didn't make that damn path like I thought I did.
It was always there.


munk
 
Paths- I have noticed that most people, given a choice between several paths at a starting point, will choose the one that appears to have been used the most, not thinking that maybe the people using it before, turned around before completeing there journey and traveled the same path twice.

Most paths will get you where you're going, but the only way to tell if this was the , right, or easyist, best or shortest is to look back after you have arrived at your destination and by that time one understands being where you wanted to go isn't nearly as important as the experiences gained in traveling there.

Munk I hope your path has small rocks and minimal concerns.

Dick
 
Most paths will get you where you're going, but the only way to tell if this was the , right, or easyist, best or shortest is to look back after you have arrived at your destination and by that time one understands being where you wanted to go isn't nearly as important as the experiences gained in traveling there.>>> Sogguy

Well said. It's the 'go', not the 'end', that is the most important.
Here I am talking like a hippie......darn.



munk
 
munk said:
This last week, which has been a confusing and 'rocky' one for me personally, (Did I tell you yet the wonderful story of our return to Rift Raft Car Salesmen?) also had a window. IN all the selfishness, love given, love taken, screams cries whines and pleadings: "No Daddy, I wanted the Peanut butter bumpers cereal too (Keith had to settle for Cocoa Krispies. We didn't get Cocoa Krispies when I was a boy. They cost too much and we weren't allowed 'desert for breakfast'.) I saw a little peek into a class act, and this lightened my own load. There are people all around us, giving. The giving goes everywhere, to Nepal and Reno and in dim rooms and bright ones, even in the munk compound. Yangdu says we all suffer while we're here. There is suffering all around. There is pain carried along without a complaint or a word for even a nod of sympathy. We all do in different ways, but my respect this morning is going out to all those who quietly go about their lives without asking for help, giving it instead.

What do you say to these people?

Thanks.

Thanks for the bright Light. It sure helps me walk easier; I can see the Path.

I probably didn't make that damn path like I thought I did.
It was always there.


munk
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munk (with no capital "m")

I know some of your 'rocky' path last week and sympathize with you. It is tough being a leader. It was tough on Bill Martino and Rusty, also. You lead and you can be a target. You just plain can not please everyone, including yourself.

These are private words I write in public.

But once you put your foot on the path, it is nigh impossible to get off it. If you do manage to get off it, I think that you will spend another lifetime before you get back to that point where you gave up. The only way out is through. If you think it out, you don't really have much choice. You know what I mean, all of you, myself included


Speaking of "The Light," I had a recurring dream where I was entering a darkened cave. In front of me was a sign. I could only read bits and pieces, but I knew it was important --- terribly irritating not to be able to understand what is said.

Maybe others have had the dreams where you wake and you know that you JUST HAD the KEY! But in waking conscousness, it has evaporated?

I knew the sign said something about "light" and "you are" and "the way," but pieces were blocked out.

Finally, I stood to the side and the sign became clear and whole: "You are standing in the way of your light."

This was in my pot and LSD days of the 1960s, but it remains with me. Don't know why I just thought of it............
 
Bill Marsh said:
munk (with no capital "m")

This was in my pot and LSD days of the 1960s, but it remains with me. Don't know why I just thought of it............
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Doing acid definately altered my perspective. In large part it is responsible for me wanting to live in the country an oddly my love of acoustic music;) Also it taught me that the EGO is the most powerful drug.

Smoking pot mainly taught me to find humor in any conceiveable situation.

I know some folks freak out or get into really addictive things going with drugs, but for me, overall the effect was(I think;) ) Positive.

I remember nearly 30 years ago I was smoking a lot of pot and doing a few other things (I've never really had a great fondness for alcohol) and I did this big dose of acid and what came out of the trip was my rationalizations for being stoned a lot fell off and I stopped compulsively smoking weed.

One other time it was responsible for me going on a big exercise program and losing 30 lbs. I'm getting too fat now maybe I need to trip out again:eek: ;)
 
Bill Marsh,

As always, true grit from your pen. One must pass through. You can't stop and juggle.

I was raised by a Quality Assurance Engineer. If this wasn't enough, the Counseling training I've received was behavioral based. (gee- where else would you go?) I forget sometimes the blunt statements I make have emotional casts to other people. I guess many of you recieved the mail from our departing member. You did not recieve my response, and wont. But that particular problem was never about good guys vs bad guys. I hope our fellow forumite changes his mind and stays. He has much to contribute.

I did not always agree with Yvsa when he was a mod, nor he I. I don't even know if he'll agree to this now; but when he was a mod, he had to carrry a lot of the load of Law and Order, and it is not always fun. He deserves THANKS.

We went back to ________ ______ and negotiated for a car. It was pointless to buy a used vehicle from them as in their gobbledy gook sleight of hand math it was practically the price of new. We are now in debt for a new car. It was not a bad price, but not a good one, and we still lost about 2000 dollars. Better than 4.

My friends and neighbors, a warm family, are running out of food. Not enough customers last year. Any of you want to visit me in my sleepy village you can stay here or at the Kalal's hotel; not great looking on the outside but clean as a whistle on the inside.
They won't take help. I'm going to hire the gentlemen to fix my driveway.
What I really want to do is start leaving hams on his front porch. Coons would get them anyway, I guess.

There's a lot of people who take a lot of hurt, and still walk with kindness, and By God, I'm going to learn to do that better if it Kills me!!!


munk
 
There's a lot of people who take a lot of hurt, and still walk with kindness, and By God, I'm going to learn to do that better if it Kills me!!!
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And not surprisingly that is where I am at today too Munk. That very point. From how many miles apart and different circumstances bringing us to the same point?

Nice Thread and thanks for posting it. Very timely for me and much appreciated.
 
As usual, I miss some things here.

Great stuff. I wish I would not complain to my poor wife so much.

I whine so much, one would think I ate a lot of cheese.

One would think I am not greatly blessed, or something...

been feeling beat down and ground under a bit myself again lately.(actually, more than a bit.) Will pray for you folks who are feeling the same.

Tom
 
What makes a good man bitter, makes a bad man laugh.

>>>>>>

I keep thinking about changing the line, writing poetry. Not, 'for', drop the word. Those quietly walk who carry the load. Then just; Quietly walk who carry the load.
This is what my brain does contantly with words. With poetry, I often strip it down so far it becomes meaningless. The last version doesn't mean as much as the second.

>>>>>>>

just an aside. I like fretting about that stuff. The words, making them right.


munk
 
sogguy said:
Paths- I have noticed that most people, given a choice between several paths at a starting point, will choose the one that appears to have been used the most, not thinking that maybe the people using it before, turned around before completeing there journey and traveled the same path twice.

Most paths will get you where you're going, but the only way to tell if this was the , right, or easyist, best or shortest is to look back after you have arrived at your destination and by that time one understands being where you wanted to go isn't nearly as important as the experiences gained in traveling there.

Munk I hope your path has small rocks and minimal concerns.

Dick
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Hi Dick:

Perhaps the road we walk is one we have unknowingly walked before? Perhaps many times?
 
Steve Poll said:
Hi Dick:

Perhaps the road we walk is one we have unknowingly walked before? Perhaps many times?
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Deja Vue? Maybe? Probably! I doubt the scenery is the same, "time and space" if you take ten steps in one direction and turn around and take ten steps down the same way, something is different. The rocks and holes are still there avoid those, see the new birds, hear the new sounds, if nothing else you are looking at the same area from a different perspetive.
I'm done.

Dick
 
Its a tough job you've got there Munk. You do it well. Leadership is a hardship, and pride runs deeply in all men. Its not always possible to overlook small things in either direction for either party. No one comes out clean in many instances. You are our leader, you do much for us. Thank you.

I'm worried about Chris.
 
sogguy said:
Deja Vue? Maybe? Probably! I doubt the scenery is the same, "time and space" if you take ten steps in one direction and turn around and take ten steps down the same way, something is different. The rocks and holes are still there avoid those, see the new birds, hear the new sounds, if nothing else you are looking at the same area from a different perspetive.
I'm done.

Dick
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Hi Sogguy:

Not deja vue, but perhaps skills and habits learned in an unremembered previous life.

We've had a lot of varied discussions here involving different religions, philosophies, aliens, you name it.

This kuk site is closely linked to India/Nepal where I believe certain religions embrace reincarnation. I wonder why it is never discussed here? Seems like it would enlighten us with a new and widely accepted view on life.
 
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