Formed sheath for wharncliff

Gary W. Graley

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I had stopped making fixed blade sheaths a while back but had to make one recently for, of all people! The W.D. Pease fixed blade wharncliff knife arrived with a dangler sheath that I never did like very well and so didn't use the knife at all, but liked it a lot, what was I to do? So I made one for myself, with a regular belt loop down the back side.

The reason for the post is to share one of the `Tricks', so to speak, about how I formed the sheath to conform to the blade shape.

I took some plastic bubble wrap, the kind used for packaging, to wrap around the knife to create a template of how the sheath will be, then take that cut out piece and lay it on to the leather, saves on the leather a bit by using the bubble wrap, small size bubbles of course!

I wrap the knife in plastic food wrap to keep the moisture from the wet leather transfering on to the knife. I place the knife into the sheath, work the leather with what is called a bone folder tool, it's a plastic/nylon stick about 3/4" wide and 1/8" thick and about 5" long. One end is squared off and smooth. While the leather is wet, I pull along the side where the curve of the back side of the knife is to try and conform to the shape of the blade, makes for a compact type sheath, keep working it, as the sheath dries I take it and keep working it until it stays in that shape. The ridge you see along the blade is something that I made to add some rigidity to the sheath and looks a bit different too!

You can also do this to trailing point type knives, just pull or stretch the leather in the direction you want it to go.

Here is the sheath, the knife has light finger grooves and aids in the retention into the sheath, I worked/formed along the edges of the handle to follow the indents. There is a leather welt that is also glued in place from the top of the sheath down to the bottom.

Note that I rounded the tip off a bit, sharp pointed sheaths are a nusiance and usually will bend later on and cause the knife to poke through, not very handy!

Not taking any orders for fixed blade sheaths, just really not into making them but hope this gives you guys some ideas for your own sheath making efforts.

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Here is a pic with the knife along side, nice fixed blade by a guy famous for his folders, in fact he isn't making fixed blades anylonger. This has a tapered tang, sheep horn scales and ATS-34 blade with a nicely ground false edge along the top.

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Great sheath!! Reminds me of some pukko sheaths I've seen.
Too bad you don't do fixed blade, I've got a Stag handled Chavar that would look awesome in something like that.
Sweet knife btw.
 
Awesome work Gary. I've never thought to stretch the leather to conform to the spine. What finish did you use for your leather? Also, did you use your slicking tool to form the "spine".

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I use Fiebings Atom Wax after dyeing it with Fiebings professional oil dyes.

And yes I use the bone folder to form/shape in that raised section along the spine, wore it to work today and I'm really liking this setup a lot more that that swinger sheath, more secure and the knife really snaps into postion when inserted.

Yep sorry Shappa, only once in a great while do I make them.
There are quite a lot of very good fixed blade sheath makers out there, our own Sandy Morrisey, Kenny Rowe and Chris Kravitts of TreeStump leather come to mind, as well as the fellow that made that nice sheath for Rhino, looks very well made!

I hope this spurs you guys on to try something odd like this, the last time I made a fixed blade sheath similar to this was for Will York, I had asked him to keep it on the qt, it was part of the deal of him buying the Ed Schott knife I had. That LARGE wharncliff sheath turned out pretty nice as well, no images of it available though.

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Gary, my friend---it warps my mind when I hear that you no longer make sheaths for fixed blade knives. It is like opening a window and throwing out a massive amount of talent. Was there any specific reason for your decision? I have stopped making holsters and gun belts---primarily because of the difficulty in shipping handguns without a Federal Firearms License. I had previously disposed of the hundreds of patterns that I had made and accumulated over the years and have no desire to start over again!

I admire your folder pouches greatly. and , in that regard, I am joined by many. I am sure that your sheaths would meet the same admiration and market!
I know, as you once stated, that you work in your kitchen----That would make it difficult as far as working space is concerned---I have a 14` X 15` shop with three tables, two closets and many shelves, and still feel as though I could use more space! My cutting tables use the most room, of course, but my stamping table is 36" X 72" with a large array of lights! I almost live in my shop!

Gary, thank you for mentioning me in the same sentence as Kenny Rowe and Chris Kravitts, two extremely talented gents. I have made the acquaintance of both and like them very much. It is my fervent desire to meet you some day and kill a few hours gabbing!

If you can, why not run pictures of that sheath and a story on how you made it on knifeforums.com. I am sure it would be welcomed there, also!
 
Thanks Sandy and I don't know why I always miss a letter or two from your last name! Old age is setting in I guess?

As to the ~Why~ on the fixed blade sheaths, many reasons, more than I want to go into here, but folders yes, those I truly enjoy creating!

I need a place to load up pictures onto the internet so I could post over in Knifeforums Leatherworking section, I'll see where I can place them and head over when I can. Appreciate your post and one of these days I'm sure we will get a chance to meet.

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Do you have any web sites that I should hit for fixed blade leather sheaths. I'll try a seach when I have more time, but if you have them handy it would be great.
 
Well, Sandy doesn't have a web page of his own that I know of but here is his email address;

Sandy's Email

If you look on Jerry Hossom's web page, most if not all of the sheaths there are made by this amazing leathersmith!
check Jerry's web page here;

Hossom Trail!

Kenny Rowe doesn't have a separate web page that I know if either but does have a place on Larry's KnifeArt site, check him out here;

Rowe's Leather

Chris Kravitt has his own site and you can check him out here;

Chris Kravitt

There ya go! any of these three can certainly fill your needs in the fixed blade leather department and if you need something in Kydex? Check out our own Normark here;

Normark the Canadian!

He is Top Notch eh?

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Thanks for sharing, Gary. That is truly a beautiful combo! Wharncliffes are my favorite, I'll soon be putting your tip to work. I know folks have different opinions on this, how wet do you get the leather before forming it? Thanks.
 
Richard, I run HOT water over the leather until it feels pliable. Otherwise you can't shape it well. When leather gets that wet it takes a few days for it to really dry out, while it goes through the drying process I always bring the knife back together with the sheath and keep stretching and forming the leather. That's one of the reasons that my folder sheaths retain their shape for so long, the stretch has been taken out already so they stay better. I use the Fiebings professional oil leather dye to put some oils back into the leather when finishing up.

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Gary, Thanks for all the links. You probably saved me, and others, alot of time and frustration.
Off to do some shopping!
 
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