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It is Blaster Teflon dry lube at Home Depot. It is dirt cheap. You should get a multi year supply. I have performed the usual drip test. It passed. I suggest to apply to a real chamois and then to the knife. You should only need it once or twice a year. this is absolutely not for cooking knives! It is for hard use outdoor knives. I just do not really like CLP. If You must however I feel Break Free is nice. I am aware that it is proven Eezox is better. I simply do not agree. However i would try to stick with the Blaster. This is just an FYI. I am of course just simply suggesting it.
 
When you say Blaster do you mean PB Blaster? They may of dropped the PB off of the main logo but will probably still be somewhere on the bottom of can by bar code or whatever. Anyway they do make great products, WD40 also has a long term corrosion inhibitor in there specialist line. Have used on tools that have been left in back of truck through rain, pliers that get soaked while working and it works great, so I tried it on some D2, 3V, and M4 with pretty good results. And I always see people saying they don’t want toxic substances in there pockets, on their knives, etc. I’ve used WD40 for everything it takes the itch away from big bites.(edit: bug bites) And I’ve never had a problem. As long as you don’t actually drink the stuff you will be fine.
 
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It may be PB. Not sure. It is dirt cheap. Good stuff. Yes, Wd40 Specialist is also good. I wonder if same stuff?

As for toxic. I hate to tell you.... the air we breathe is toxic! Unfortunately an organic compound cannot do the same job. It dries in 20 seconds. I do not undermine your concern however.
 
As far as toxicity, there is a difference between acute effects (such as if you drank a whole glass of WD40) and long-term effects or subtle impacts on overall health, rates of cancers, etc. People have raised the same challenges to warnings about smoking, asbestos, lead, etc. How many times have you heard someone say that they smoke a pack a day and they're fine?

Yeah, the air we breath is toxic in some places. A lot of us have exposure to toxic stuff from work or hobbies. A wise man once asked me: "Why lean into the punch?" In this case, why have toxic stuff on the intimate items you handle and carry every day (especially in pockets close to your manhood) if you don't have to?

"Organic" is sometimes a dubious designation. In this situation, I care more about "toxic". For instance, the FMO 350-AW I mentioned is a good-quality, non-toxic oil made for kitchen and food-prep machinery. Essentially, it is made for use in environments with heat, moisture, and potential exposure to salty or acidic food substances and where toxicity is relevant. Not surprisingly, it's also good for guns, folding knives, and multi-tools.
 
I really appreciate that you said that in a non threatening way. You know what? It certainly would not hurt any! Testicle cancer is not funny at all. Although, the lead itself is probably not very good either.
 
SS234 said:
It is indeed PB. True. Since it is now dry. I guess I see no harm to food. McDonald's is much worse for you.
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I had a friend who passed away a couple of years ago that was a chemist for nearly 60 years. All they did was test food. The only fast food that he would eat is cheeseburgers and fries from McDonald's.
 
Chronovore said:
As far as toxicity, there is a difference between acute effects (such as if you drank a whole glass of WD40) and long-term effects or subtle impacts on overall health, rates of cancers, etc. People have raised the same challenges to warnings about smoking, asbestos, lead, etc. How many times have you heard someone say that they smoke a pack a day and they're fine?.
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I do smoke around a pack a day.And I’m PA state licensed Lead Paint Abatement Supervisor and Asbestos Abatement Worker. Both certifications took at least a week in a training class followed by a test there then a test with the state. They always knew about the dangers of both Lead, and Asbestos they just didn’t think far enough ahead both things are fine until they break down. Lead paint is great the first 20 years or so it’s not until it starts to deteriorate that it becomes a problem. WD40 has been around for years and there has been no reported connection to cancer, or any kind of long term issues. It’s marketed has a do it all home and workshop lubricant. It wouldn’t have been around this long if it was at all dangerous.
 
I heard that the oil in WD40 is basically just mineral oil. I have no way of testing that stuff though.
 
000Robert said:
I heard that the oil in WD40 is basically just mineral oil. I have no way of testing that stuff though.
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The closest thing I’ve found to WD40 is Mineral Spirits but WD is less of a solvent than Mineral Spirits. I’ve heard it’s made from fish oil, and all kinds of things. I believe it’s not a petroleum product. The recipe is patented and pretty well guarded. But if it was dangerous they wouldn’t be able to suggest all the uses that they do without getting in serious trouble and countless law suits. They tell you to spray it all over your house and can be used as a hand cleaner. If it was that bad they would not be able to do that. Also recently going through some YouTube videos Greg Medford suggests that a little WD40 is all you need.
 
FrankieJ*DWM_EDC said:
The closest thing I’ve found to WD40 is Mineral Spirits but WD is less of a solvent than Mineral Spirits. I’ve heard it’s made from fish oil, and all kinds of things. I believe it’s not a petroleum product. The recipe is patented and pretty well guarded. But if it was dangerous they wouldn’t be able to suggest all the uses that they do without getting in serious trouble and countless law suits. They tell you to spray it all over your house and can be used as a hand cleaner. If it was that bad they would not be able to do that. Also recently going through some YouTube videos Greg Medford suggests that a little WD40 is all you need.
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I don't put any oil on kitchen knives. We have SS kitchen knives here. After I sharpened the chefs knife a week or so ago, I just cleaned it with 99% alcohol and put it into the block with a note on it to remind the girls that I just sharpened it.
 
000Robert said:
I don't put any oil on kitchen knives. We have SS kitchen knives here. After I sharpened the chefs knife a week or so ago, I just cleaned it with 99% alcohol and put it into the block with a note on it to remind the girls that I just sharpened it.
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I agree that kitchen knives shouldn’t need any lubrication, this is more about pocket knives made of tool steels. Although EDCi is supposed to be food safe, only thing with that stuff is that if you don’t completely wipe down your knife or whatever after spraying it down with EDCi. The left over lubricant will actually cause rust spots, so I don’t know how effective the stuff can really be at preventing corrosion when it causes it if not completely dry before putting knife away.
 
FrankieJ*DWM_EDC said:
I do smoke around a pack a day.And I’m PA state licensed Lead Paint Abatement Supervisor and Asbestos Abatement Worker. Both certifications took at least a week in a training class followed by a test there then a test with the state. They always knew about the dangers of both Lead, and Asbestos they just didn’t think far enough ahead both things are fine until they break down. Lead paint is great the first 20 years or so it’s not until it starts to deteriorate that it becomes a problem. WD40 has been around for years and there has been no reported connection to cancer, or any kind of long term issues. It’s marketed has a do it all home and workshop lubricant. It wouldn’t have been around this long if it was at all dangerous.
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I've worked with lead and asbestos. Asbestos is very good for inhibiting heat transfer. Both lead paint and asbestos only become problematic once they start breaking down and releasing tiny particles that can find their way into human bodies. The problem is that they eventually do. The particles themselves can persist indefinitely in dust or on surfaces. Both present an obviously higher risk category than something like WD40.

The "then they wouldn't be allowed to..." and "it wouldn't have been around this long if..." arguments are tricky. They require a lot of faith in our regulatory agencies. Having gone through the arduous study of public policy, health and environmental ethics (etc.), I don't have that level of faith. It's also interesting that WD40 continues to have such a strong following as a lubricant. There is lots of use testing floating around the web if anyone wants to dig into that one.

The exact recipe of WD40 is not known. It is a trade secret and not patented. Looking at the MSDS, it's probably not particularly toxic. The best available information suggests a mixture of mineral oil and various alkanes. Wired famously ran it through a gas chromatograph to get the results below. While none of these alkanes are particularly toxic, they certainly aren't good for you. There is limited evidence to suggest that decane and tetradecane may be carcinogenic. My earlier suggestion about having it continuously near to sensitive body parts stands. So too does the advice about "leaning into the punch" if you don't have to.

 
I did not understand that video. It looks like PB Blaster and WD40 both fared poorly. On severely rusted material? Not their intended purpose? Also PB Blaster is not Blaster. Blaster is a new Teflon dry film lubricant.
 
WD 40 is good for:
Rust inhibition on items that won't be handled much.
Light lubrication.
Water displacement.
As a penetrating lubricant.
I have used it in my endeavors for 50 years. While it may not be the best at anything, it's good stuff to have around.
 
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