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Fox Knives

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Heya,

Can you guys share an opinion on the knives made by the italian company Fox Cutlery? I have just seen them for sale in a new shop over here, and as I don't have many options around I was thinking about getting one (sort of Kabar lookalike) from them, as a general camping/utility/survival sheath knife.

The alloys they use seem to be either 440B (but with 56-58 HRC) or the european Carbon C70.

Any help would be appreciated, as I'm the very definition of newbye into this domain.

Dan
 
Hi elenaiba!

There's nothing wrong with the FOX knives, absolutely nothing! And you are right! The steel they use is 440 B, which is a solid performer. I have a lot of Fox knives and I have no complaints about them, they're really good and you can use them hard without getting damage. The edge holding ability is not bad, I think you get a lot for the money they ask you for the knife!
greetings
sniper66
 
I have many of them and they are really good, especially for the price!
I have a skinner in 440A (guess they chose this steel because of better rust resistance) and used it for years, and it's still as new. You need to resharpen it quite often, but on the other hand sharpening is very easy. It's also extremely sturdy. I used it as a hatchet to fell a small tree once! The new line is made out of 440C, not B. It's a good knife if you need something compact and don't really know what you'll have to use it for, and don't want get caught wanting a sturdy blade should the need arise.
I've also some of their liner locks and all perform very well.
Actually my usual all around carry knife was a liner lock from Fox before I got my Jason Jacks folder :)
Look out for Maserin, too! They are also from Maniago and make very nice knives.
Glad to see this fine knives get exported :)
 
You may find the fixed blades a better value than the folders. Do not buy their folders. They are lame enought that a 9 year old kid (literally) can break them with little effort and then they refused to replace the knife. I would choose another brand.

-Sam.
 
Ok, so the 440B is worth the money (they say it's B on their web page and in the catalog in the shop). What about the C70 knives? I haven't been able to find much about this alloy on the net. Which one should I get, all other things being (I think) equal?

Dan
 
I would got for the 440B. I'm not in favour of mystery steels, and, buying a knife made of 440B, I'm sure to buy a solid performer which delivers both, acceptable to good edge holding ability on the one hand and toughness and strength on the other hand combined with the ease of resharpening!
I didn't know that they now make their new line out of 440 C, but I would be careful......... I know their heat treating on 440B which is excellent but I don't know it concerning the 440 C. And,.... if you are looking for larger blades it would be an advantage to choose 440 B because of the toughness, have some thoughts also on this issue!!!!

greetings
sniper66
 
Originally posted by SammyB
You may find the fixed blades a better value than the folders. Do not buy their folders. They are lame enought that a 9 year old kid (literally) can break them with little effort and then they refused to replace the knife. I would choose another brand.

-Sam.

Dunno what you feed to children there, but isn't definitely the stuff they eat here :)
You were either unlucky or did something _really_ wrong.

I own their 499 OCS (440 C Blade, 57-59 HRC) , plain blade, and used it for years without any problems. It is a very well built, reliable knife, which performs very well both in cutting and edge holding ability.

I own two 3498 (440 C blade, 57-59 HRC) pre production run with olive wood handle and anodized aluminum handle and used it for years and, again, no problem at all (the aluminum handle one had to be corrected in the lock: the prototype knife was ground in a way the lock wasn't as solid as my other knives, after that performed flawlessly until I retired it for a new gerber... seems I can't carry constantly the same knife :))

I own the 500 RT (440 A steel 55-57 HRC) and, again, no problems, I even half customized it.
I used it when I was in the army for serious chores, well out of such a small knife capabilities, without faults.

I own the 594 (440A steel, 55-57 HRC) and actually used it as a hatchet to fall a 4" diameter small tree without the blade taking any free play, and anybody knows how much abuse is for a folder to be used such way (it's the classical "don't do it at home" thing :)) and used it for over six years thereafter in camping without a single problem.

I admit that I never used them to strike into oild rums or use them as stepladders or other such strange things, I always used them as knives.
I admit, too, that I never experienced Fox customer care, since as said I never had to have a knife of theirs repaired.

How did your knife actually fail? in which circumstances?

As for knife steels, you may see them at www.foxcutlery.com by clicking on the single knife picture.
All liner locks are made out of 440C SS steel tempered to 57-59 HRc
Pocket and Hunting are made out of 440A, 420 and similar highly corrosion resistant steels.
 
Hey Alarion,

The blade itself worked fine. The locking mechanisim and pivot were the issue with the folder that failed.

My son had decided to get himself a small folder. He chose a Fox as it was inexpensive ($50) compared to some of the other brands and had a locking mechanisim that could be operated with both hands outside the arc of the blades edge. He was 9 at the time. He selected the Fox folder with the lock that released from the thumbstud being pushed forward. It has been two years and I don't remember the model # but it was a "lightlock" I think. It had nice scales and a decent edge and he loved it:) He had it less than a day if I recall correctly and he was cutting a potato. The lock flew apart with parts all over the place. The store I took it back to did not want to replace it. Called FOX and was told it was not waranteed against abuse...LOL... and would not be replaced by Fox. The owner of the store did end up refunding his money after a long and heated discussion though...

Lesson learned. (Fox folder and customer service... bad... IMO!)

-Sam.
 
Mmmh, I don't know the specific model, but it seems pretty strange to me the lock would fail in such a catastrophic way...
I mean, it probably was defective to start with.
Of five Fox knives I own, as said, the only one found with a small, easily corrected defect was a prototype.
Never heared anybody lament lock failure like you had. The dealer should have replaced it and dealt with the factory for substituting what was obviously a defective piece. Strange the fact that Fox would refuse to change the piece. As said I never had any experience with their customer care, but a few people told me it's quite good.
 
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