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Daniel Koster

Daniel Koster

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Price is $150 shipped to ConUS
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14, 16 = Kapur





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Payment is made out to Yangdu, not to me.
 
I'm really surprised there are no more takers. From what I've heard, these are great knives. I'm pretty excited that I got one from this order! :D

Nam
 
Dan,
I will take # 16 if it is still there. ;) I could not hold off any longer. :rolleyes:
E-Mail to follow.
Thanks
Rick
 
I prepaid for one, so I claim it if it's still available. Sending email.....

*Bloody Sharks* :p :D
 
If you got it, it was worth waiting for. If not, I have no doubt that something satisfactory will be arranged.

Review is forthcoming, but this latest batch is well above and beyond what we saw with the first batch. Both were well worth the money, but the second one...well, we'll see what we see when I thrash it.
 
Dave Rishar said:
If you got it, it was worth waiting for. If not, I have no doubt that something satisfactory will be arranged.

Review is forthcoming, but this latest batch is well above and beyond what we saw with the first batch. Both were well worth the money, but the second one...well, we'll see what we see when I thrash it.
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Dave, I'll be interested in your analysis. I have one of the two trial runs that came before the first batch, that as far as I know were exactly what the first batch was based on, and it is flawless. When the rest of those came they looked identical to mine. So if these are well above and beyond that, I'd be interested in why you think so.

Really not trying to put you on the spot, but do value your perceptions. I couldn't justify another 17" and 24 oz'er, or I would have grabbed one of these walnut or kapur ones.

Thanks,

Norm
 
For what it's worth, in my opinion the FF needs another 2 oz to be a better chopper. 26 might have done it.



munk
 
Svashtar said:
Really not trying to put you on the spot, but do value your perceptions. I couldn't justify another 17" and 24 oz'er, or I would have grabbed one of these walnut or kapur ones.
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Since Norm's trying to put me on the spot, here we go. ;)

Things that I like better about the new one:

- No habaki.
- Longer blade. (Beyond what the habaki itself.)
- Considerably better fit and finish on both blades and scabbard.
- Hardened zone appears to be more consistant.
- Blade rings like a tuning fork when tapped with a fingernail. (The earlier one rings a bit when struck with metal, but not with a fingernail and not like this.)
- Slightly more neutral in balance than the earlier one.
- Fullers are straighter and more consistant.

My conclusion: this is a tough blade to make, and Sher simply got better as he went along.

When I get a chance I'll take some pictures of the two side by side and you'll see what I'm talking about. Without explaining which is which, anyone would be able to tell which one was the prototype and which was the finished product.
 
Does anyone agree with me about two more ounces of weight? If we'd gone to 28 oz, we'd be entering the territory of not as comfortable to carry. But two more ozs may have given us nearly the chopping ability, considering the shape and form of the design, while still not being that much more to carry than 24 oz.

When you get into this range, two ounces matters. A 30 oz khuk is harder to carry all day than one weighing 28.



munk
 
Dave Rishar said:
Both of mine were by Sher.
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Same here. The prototypes that Dan and I first received were by Sher as well, or at least mine is.

I was wondering if there was going to be a difference in the balance in what I first thought, and remarked on in another thread, was quite a bit of difference in the handle lengths.
I must have been having a bad day as I thought there was about a 1/2" difference but damn was I mistaken!!!!:o :(
There's only about an 1/8" difference in the length of the handles between the ptototype and the final model as well as the over all length.
But there *IS* a major difference in the size of the handles!!!!
The handle on the final model is *Fat* and makes a real difference in the way the seemingly much lighter khuk feels.
The fat handle does "look" longer when laying side by side for some odd reason, maybe that's why I thought it was.:foot:
The final model is around 23 ounces and the prototype is around 31 ounces.
The difference in weight will also show up as a difference in balance I think.
It will be interesting to see how each performs.:D
I don't have much doubt that the heavy one will be the better chopper.
 
munk - I do think that 25-26 oz would have been perfect. I wanted 24 (as did Yvsa) to see what would happen. I'm not going to ask Yangdu for anymore (though I'm sure they will appear on their own)....that said, I will let her know that it's ok to take it up to 26 oz.

Both mine were made by Sher.
 
Yvsa said:
Same here. The prototypes that Dan and I first received were by Sher as well, or at least mine is.

I was wondering if there was going to be a difference in the balance in what I first thought, and remarked on in another thread, was quite a bit of difference in the handle lengths.
I must have been having a bad day as I thought there was about a 1/2" difference but damn was I mistaken!!!!:o :(
There's only about an 1/8" difference in the length of the handles between the ptototype and the final model as well as the over all length.
But there *IS* a major difference in the size of the handles!!!!
The handle on the final model is *Fat* and makes a real difference in the way the seemingly much lighter khuk feels.
The fat handle does "look" longer when laying side by side for some odd reason, maybe that's why I thought it was.:foot:
The final model is around 23 ounces and the prototype is around 31 ounces.
The difference in weight will also show up as a difference in balance I think.
It will be interesting to see how each performs.:D
I don't have much doubt that the heavy one will be the better chopper.
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The kapur (Sher) I have is about 1/4" longer than the rhododendrun (Sher) - both from the last batch. Working from memory, the chandan (Bura - from the big batch) I had was probably another 1/4" longer than the kapur. The rhodo is the only handle I have on something larger than 13" on which my forefinger touches the bolster in a normal grip.

The rhodo is a little thicker than the Kapur, particularly below the ring toward the buttplate, which pushes my grip a little more up on the bolster. The chandan was probably a little thicker than the others. Both of the last batch have a point of balance closer to the handle then chandan.

They're both in the queue to get mineral oiled. I can't wait to try them out either.
 
MY 24 oz FF flails away at wood without authority. Its weight is more 'historically correct' whatever the hell that is, than many other HI products, though many HI products are also light and steered more towards a little over a oz per inch of knife length. I actually think my 25oz 19" Chitlangi may chop better than this 24oz FF. The blade on the chit is thicker and less 'broad'. I am convinced the HI kamis know what they are doing. I'm trying to remember how much my 18" Hanshee weighs- around 24 or 25 oz and it chops better also. Maybe 26oz. This calls for more chopping comparisons within my collection.


munk
 
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