Framelocking-bar reinforcement ideeer...

Professor

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How feasible would something like the insert on this titanium framelocker design be? I thought, if anything, it could extend lock life, bypass need for lock-end differential heat-treatment, and make for a lesser-expensive lock replacement/repair on the maker/manufacturer's end.

I'm currently running the idea by the BM guys, but would love some input from this great thinktank...

(Please see pic attached below...)

Thank you in advance for your replies and suggestions!

Professor.
 
Not sure how that joker ended up on end, but can't seem to rotate it ccw 90 degrees, so she'll have to stand as is... Sorry!

Professor.
 
Wow! That's a pretty cool idea. It would be even cooler if the company wouuld ship two extra inserts with each knife and stop the no disassembly or void warranty nonsense. BTW, I would suggest you put (C) 2001 Profesor, All Rights Reserved on the picture.
 
What you are talking about is essentially what Tom Anderson does with his folders already as do others like Bob Terzuola. These makers mill out a pocket inside the frame and insert a separate lock piece much like what you have pictured except that the frame is not cut, so the lock acts internally. The lock can then be replaced should it wear out.

The problem with this idea seems to me that the lock still needs to be fitted to the knife so the idea of extra locks that you could just screw in and replace wouldn't work. Every time you put a new one in it will have to be custom fitted. Not to mention the extra milling needed to seat the lock pieces. It would be almost as easy to just remake the side that has the lock especially if they already have blanks made up that are watercut. I just don't see much advantage to a company like BM, but what do I know? I could be completely wrong on this, just what I'm thinking from the very few folders that I've built. Hopefully a more experienced framelock maker like Tom Mayo or Darrel will weigh in with an opinion.

Great drawing BTW and a fun idea! I really enjoyed it. :D
 
It is a good idea.....although not original......
However......you are doing twice as much work to end up with the same results. If you want a hard lockend....just make the whole lock out of something hard. Hardened Ti works pretty good.
 
:)

I'm with ya... Took me a minute to visualize the folders you mentioned and how they insert a seperate locking bar; somewhat like MT's microbar, but with springiness on its own with no secondary spring.

I would think fitting a new lock insert would best be done by the maker/manufacturer. Essentially, if precision was consistent, all you'd have to do would be to file down the purposely-left-long lock surface to achieve the right fit.

I have a knack for complicating simplicity, and fixing what ain't yet broke...

:D

Professor.
 
Professor, here's a pic of Tom's insert method:

tom7.jpg
 
Peter, I have a Tom Anderson folder that I just purchased recently.
I had no idea that the locking system was replacable but I checked and it looks just like your photos. :) Is there anything else I should know... does it make coffee or function as a remote control too? :D Thank's for the heads up.
John.
 
John, aren't his knives great? I love my Wolfpup folder that I bought from him this summer. I had the great fortune of attending his folder making class and we built one from scratch which is where those pics came from. Boy, was that a great learning experience! I think it's very cool that he does his locks this way. And yes, it does have more functions- mine has a self sharpener built in! ;) :D Maybe it just seems that way since the BG-42 keeps it's edge forever.
 
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