Free Glock 19

Screwdriver

Screwdriver

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In the late 80's I sold a Glock 19 and a 22 to a friend of mine, who later died in a car accident. The Glocks turned up missing and since they were still registered to me I reported them as lost.

So about a year ago, I got a visit from two LAPD detectives who wanted to find out who I sold the Glocks to and whatever info I had. Turns out one of the Glocks was recovered from an armed robbery and was being held as evidence. So I answered all their questions and they went on their way. Last night I got a letter in the mail from the LAPD stating that they are finished with the investigation and I could now pick up the Glock. I would just have to fill out the "Law Enforcement Gun Release Application" and mail it to the California Department of Justice along with a $20 fee. The only problem I had was that the evidence clerk didn't know what model the Glock was and at the time I wasn't sure if it was the model 19 or 22. All they had was the brand and serial number. The DOJ needed that information or the request would be denied. I then called Glock this morning and was told it is a 19 and was one of the first 40 sold in the US.

Anyhow, should take 30 days or less to get the paperwork back from the DOJ and then I can go pick it up. I am also curious as to the condition of it and if the LAPD will leave the original 15 round clip, or if that will be confiscated because of California's 10 shot clip limitation.
 
I'm a little confused. You sold a couple guns to a friend. He died and you had reason to believe they had been stolen from your friend. Your friend has no heirs or willed the guns to you. You also live in California. It is illegal to have a 15 round clip in California. I don't have answers, jsut confused.
 
David Metzger said:
I'm a little confused. You sold a couple guns to a friend. He died and you had reason to believe they had been stolen from your friend. Your friend has no heirs or willed the guns to you. You also live in California. It is illegal to have a 15 round clip in California. I don't have answers, jsut confused.
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I believe pre-ban magazines can be grandfathered, just not transferred.
 
David Metzger said:
I'm a little confused. You sold a couple guns to a friend. He died and you had reason to believe they had been stolen from your friend. Your friend has no heirs or willed the guns to you. You also live in California. It is illegal to have a 15 round clip in California. I don't have answers, jsut confused.
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No where in my post did I state they were stolen from my friend.

Here is a clearer breakdown....

I was really good friends with the family and they gave me his gun collection after he died. We used to go shooting most every weekend and they figured he would of wanted me to have them. When I picked up the guns I saw the Glocks were missing. Since they were still registered to myself, I informed the police that they were not in my friends possession and possibly lost....but not stolen. If he did sell them I wanted to make sure the police had record that I didn't have them any more to be on the safe side.

As for the 15 round clip.....The gun was made when the clip was legal, and since I was the original owner of the 15 round clip it is grandfathered and I can legally own it. I have many AR15, AK, Glock and others clips that are linked to firearms I have owned or own.

BTW, My brother in law is a Federal Agent and he has verified that most of what I have is legal :D
 
I didn't read the posts...how do I get a free Glock 19?



Just kidding. Congrats on getting your gun back.
 
"I sold a Glock 19 and a 22 to a friend of mine" "The Glocks turned up missing and since they were still registered to me I reported them as lost."

Thats what I read that was sketch. Of course I dont know when handgun transfers started having to go through a FFL in CA. BTW Standard capacity mags dont have to be "linked" to any particular gun to be legal.
 
gimmejr said:
"I sold a Glock 19 and a 22 to a friend of mine" "The Glocks turned up missing and since they were still registered to me I reported them as lost."

Thats what I read that was sketch. Of course I dont know when handgun transfers started having to go through a FFL in CA. BTW Standard capacity mags dont have to be "linked" to any particular gun to be legal.
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I think it was in 2000 that you had to go through a FFL for firearm transfer. Also, I know that the clip doesn't have to be linked, but owning a clip that links to a gun that I had registered before the ban just adds a little bit of legal safety. Since most of the clips were purchased without any paperwork what so ever.
 
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i offer up no advice/knowledge.


sorry to hear about your friend though :'(
 
if you keep the pistol, upgrade the carbon steel internal parts with newer stainless parts ....free Glock replacement in the 80's
 
Its nice that your g19 turned up you should post some pics of her condition. I hope they recover your g22 as well.
 
Congrats on being able to get you Glock 19 back. :) Keep any and all paper work that you get it back with. It may add to the value, even if it's only sentimental Value. Since it's one of the 1st 40 sold in the US I say don't change a thing, just enjoy shooting it. Changing parts will hurt the value more then continued shooting.
 
In California:

Effective January 1, 2000, the manufacture, importation, sale, or transfer of any large capacity firearms magazine, except to specifically designated parties and under specified conditions (including law enforcement use, loans for service/repair, et al.), will be prohibited by law. A large capacity magazine is defined as any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds but shall not include any .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device, or a magazine that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf...d98f0e6-96d0-464b-8d54-6650b55b0a97/1/hilite/

If you were not the registered owner prior to 1/1/2000 it is illegal to have the full capacity magazine transferred to you and illegal for you to receive it.

Sweet Glock though. I still prefer the feel of the original mid size Glock frame to 3rd gen 19 and 23.

Sorry about your friend.
 
Update...

I got my DOJ paperwork back last night and just got back from the LAPD Foothill Division picking up the Glock. I'll just say that police have a really odd look on their face when a civilian is holding a firearm in a police station.

Anyhow, I am blown away what good condition this gun is in. I was told the gun was recovered in a gang sweep and the Glock was in the possession of a man wanted for a bank robbery. They think this was the gun used in that crime. The cool part was the officer that retrieved the gun said she gave the gun a good cleaning. Also it came with the original 15 shot mag.

Well, here she is....

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I'm surprised its not all marked up. In CT they engrave the case number and evidence number on the gun. Typically after grinding a section of bluing off.
 
Blackbilly said:
I'm surprised its not all marked up. In CT they engrave the case number and evidence number on the gun. Typically after grinding a section of bluing off.
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The rifling is spotless and I really don't think the gun was fired much....I mean it does show wear....but it is even like it had a lot of handling. But no dings, scratches or damage to the frame or mag.
 
Screwdriver, glad you got yours back! Like yours, mine was one of the first too, brought home from the Shot Show in a Glock 17 marked box...the guy that photographed the knives in my book wanted the Glock for his services. It could've cost me ~$4k for a photographer, so a gun that cost me $325 seemed like the better deal. With part of the $85k I've made on the book so far, I bought this Gen. 3 RTF2 Glock 19...but, there's something to be said for an original! Congrats, shoot it in good health for years to come! :)

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Melvin-Purvis said:
Screwdriver, glad you got yours back! Like yours, mine was one of the first too, brought home from the Shot Show in a Glock 17 marked box...the guy that photographed the knives in my book wanted the Glock for his services. It could've cost me ~$4k for a photographer, so a gun that cost me $325 seemed like the better deal. With part of the $85k I've made on the book so far, I bought this Gen. 3 RTF2 Glock 19...but, there's something to be said for an original! Congrats, shoot it in good health for years to come! :)

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I heard these Gen 2 Glock 19's have an issue with the frame cracking. This one is crack free. I called Glock and the said they would replace the frame for free, but I would have to have the gun shipped back to an FFL dealer and fill out the DROS paperwork. This is an awesome Gen 2....so I might just leave her alone.
 
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