FSH - HOFSH questions / clarifications.

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Andros

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Being new to the BUSSE family (I just own one BUSSE knife only + a couple limited editions from the “Other Company”, I would like your assistance about the FSH. So, here come my questions guys:

1) I am thinking of getting either a FSH or a HOFSH. I am skeptical though about the cutting ability of the “fatter” blade: is this as efficient a cutter as the FSH is?

2) Could anyone provide me with information about its basic cost (i.e. HOFSH)?

3) What is the difference between the Penetrator Tip (PT) and the Busse Armored Tip (BAT – if I am not mistaken)?

Thank you and never stop being the wonderful community you are :thumbup: :thumbup: .

George

P.S.: BTW, who is PORKERSON :confused: :confused: :confused:??? He frequently gets blamed by Jerry (and not only) for a lot of things :rolleyes: .
 
I think PORKERSON will be ablong shortly to answer all your queestions... :D

I'll give my 2 cents.

1) Depends. Are you thinking of cutting vegetables or trees?

2) Depends on what kind of handle and finish. There are some for sale here http://www.bussecompanystore.com/

3) PT is when the edges on the spine of the knife are ground down just a little during the sharpening process. The BAT is a series of grinds. It's like...umm....OK HOGS. I know there are pics somewhere but I can't find them....I BLAME PORKERSON!



:D
 
Heavy said:
I think PORKERSON will be ablong shortly to answer all your queestions... :D

I'll give my 2 cents.

1) Depends. Are you thinking of cutting vegetables or trees?

O.K. then, which is better than the other and under what circumstances?

2) Depends on what kind of handle and finish. There are some for sale here http://www.bussecompanystore.com/

This is true but no mentioning of any price related to HOFSH

3) PT is when the edges on the spine of the knife are ground down just a little during the sharpening process. The BAT is a series of grinds. It's like...umm....OK HOGS. I know there are pics somewhere but I can't find them....I BLAME PORKERSON!

:D

What :eek: ? PORKERSON again :eek: ? So, who is this mysterious, elusive and evidently omnipotent PORKERSON :confused: :confused: :confused: ???
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BTW, thank you for your time and your reply.

Take care Heavy,

George
 
i would think the thinner blade would slice better and the thicker may be a better chopper.

$462.00 for Blk/ Blk all the way up to $597.00 for the LE.
(the store is presently out with a large shipment in the finishing stages.)

i think both tits are the same but i could be wrong, one may be bigger than the other or at least have longer grinds or swedges. i personally think they are the same. small 1/4" up to 1" swedges on top at the tip.

porkerson is a trouble maker, a boar (rogue) hog who is always around when trouble starts. he is the main reason for moderators. he is also a rathog or switch hitter between us and the "otherside"

hope this help answer your questions
 
idahoskunk said:
i would think the thinner blade would slice better and the thicker may be a better chopper.

$462.00 for Blk/ Blk all the way up to $597.00 for the LE.
(the store is presently out with a large shipment in the finishing stages.)

i think both tits are the same but i could be wrong, one may be bigger than the other or at least have longer grinds or swedges. i personally think they are the same. small 1/4" up to 1" swedges on top at the tip.

porkerson is a trouble maker, a boar (rogue) hog who is always around when trouble starts. he is the main reason for moderators. he is also a rathog or switch hitter between us and the "otherside"

hope this help answer your questions
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Thank you

I am to give a call to BUSSE COMPANY STORE in a while. Any chance we talk?
 
With me living in Greece (which is a part of EC) I felt like sharing the news with you:

"The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby
English will be the official language of the European Union rather
than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the
negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English
spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year
phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English." In the
first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make
sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour
of "k." This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one
less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond
year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will
make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik
akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expected to reach the stage
where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will
enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a
deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes
of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go
away. By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as
replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v." During ze fifz yer, ze
unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords containing "ou" and after ze
fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor
trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech
oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. If zis mad you
smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl. Zen ve vil rul ze vorld!!"

After all this do you still think that PORKERSON has nothing to do with it? :D :D :D
 
FWIW, I once did some calculations on the Meaner Street and the Leaner Meaner, because I wanted to order the best slicer. Because of the flat grind on the thicker Meaner, the bevel angle caluculated to be smaller for the Meaner by a very small amount. Allowing for measurement variation and rounding, the angles were for all practical purposes the same. So naturally, I ordered both. :D Interestingly, the intermediate thickness Model T will have a larger included bevel angle than either the Meaner or the Leaner Meaner. If the Model T were full flat ground, it would be the best of the three.

This may or may not hold true for the FSH, but I would not automatically assume that the thinner FSH would be a better slicer, unless you are slicing really thick material.
 
George,

You have quickly caught on to the evil that is Porkerson. . . . Luckily, and maybe suspiciously, his name will continue to be spelled the same in Euro-English and therefore blaming him for nearly everything remains globally easy!!

He has to have been behind this!!!!! :eek:

When in doubt. . . . .

I BLAME PORKERSON!!!!!
 
For chopping, I'd say that the HOFSH would have the advantage. Simply because of the increased mass.

Splitting wood, however, I'd go with the FSH because the blade wouldn't need to spread the wood as far to advance the blade.

As far as cutting/slicing goes, I think that either would be just fine, but again the thinner stock would have a slight advantage.

But having held a HOFSH, I'd totally say that with the standard scales it was amazingly comfortable. Heavy, but sweeeeet.

Good luck with your decision, bro! :D
 
360joules said:
For chopping, I'd say that the HOFSH would have the advantage. Simply because of the increased mass.

Splitting wood, however, I'd go with the FSH because the blade wouldn't need to spread the wood as far to advance the blade.
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There's your answer. You obviously need both. :thumbup:
 
Question 1 is the same question I asked, and I was told that the angles should be similar, if not the same, this is because the HO grind extends to the edge, and the regular grind stops short of the edge. BTW, you want the HO It's what I have, every time I pick it up, I have to smile because it's THAT heavy.
 
I would go with a magnum handles on a standard FSH or the standard handles on a HOG. I have a HOGFSH with standard slabs and it is very comfortable. I thought maybe I would have liked the magnums but after considering that I wear gloves in the field at times and in the winter, insulated gloves, the standard slabs are the way to go for me. I have medium/large hands.

It is awesome either way you go
 
Thank all of you guys who took the time and patience to answer my questions.

I will ask you though to bear with me a little more: Yesterday, I placed an order for a FSH with black crinkle finish, magnum tan canvas micarta and B.A.T. (Busse Armored Tip). Understanding that all of you are much more experienced than I am, I resort to your knowledge to let me know if you think this is a good choice OR you might think that there may be durability issues with this tip choice.

Please, feel free to comment on my choice. If you think that I goofed off, then by all means say so. Garth told me that I am looking at a period of about 4-6 weeks for the completion of this knife so there is still time to make alterations.

Further to that, I was told that the thickness of the FSH is NOT .25" but .22" :eek: :confused: ! What measurements do you guys have? Now, I understand that the blade tapers towards the tip so, in trying to be more specific, what measurements do you get at the beginning of the handle?

idahoskunk said:
i hope so! better know how to talk pig latin here ;)
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Idahoskunk, I didn't know how to ask for you yesterday. So if you will, e-mail me your name at: gmoutafis@theocarakis.gr and I will try to call you today.

I am looking forward to your opinions / comments.

George

P.S.: Bear on mind that if I err here with my selection then I wouldn't even be able to dare :barf: blaming PORKERSON! :foot: It's going to be that bad; therefore, it's that serious of a matter.
 
you are lucky that you found one like that, it must be coming from the custom shop as the regular run ceased a couple of months ago. don't worry, it will be a beautiful knife and i'm sure you will fall in love with it.
 
idahoskunk said:
you are lucky that you found one like that, it must be coming from the custom shop as the regular run ceased a couple of months ago. don't worry, it will be a beautiful knife and i'm sure you will fall in love with it.
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Thank you idahoskunk

Do you see any durability issues with the selection of the B.A.T.(Busse Armored Tip)?

I am looking forward to hearing from you.

Take care,

George :)
 
g_moutafis said:
With me living in Greece (which is a part of EC) I felt like sharing the news with you:

"The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby
English will be the official language of the European Union rather
than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the
negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English
spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year
phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English." In the
first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make
sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour
of "k." This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one
less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond
year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will
make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik
akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expected to reach the stage
where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will
enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a
deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes
of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go
away. By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as
replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v." During ze fifz yer, ze
unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords containing "ou" and after ze
fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor
trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech
oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. If zis mad you
smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl. Zen ve vil rul ze vorld!!"

After all this do you still think that PORKERSON has nothing to do with it? :D :D :D
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Ok now that was flippin FUNNY! Man I can't imagine the time it took to come up with that. That is some serious typing!

What is the difference between the Penetrator Tip (PT) and the Busse Armored Tip (BAT – if I am not mistaken)?

Ya know I'm still confused on this! :confused: I'm alot closer to understanding it now that I've read Heavy's post, but I sure would like to see a couple of close ups of the different tip styles. I guess I'm a visual type. Need to see it to fully understand it. This has been true since I was even a little kid, my dad, knowing this about me, had a good time when it came time to explain sex to my brother and me! :eek: My mother still blushes when the subject comes up! :o Ahhhh yes fond childhood memories! :D

Stay Strong & No Regrets!
Brian
 
The penetrator tip basically consists of two tiny (think 1/4 inch long by 1/16 wide or less) bevels ground on the spine at the tip of the knife. The BAT is a fully different set of major bevels at the tip that make it blunter yet still fairly pointy in order to maximize tip strength while not giving up too much penetration. Go to Badmojo's site and look at the stealth hawk, those all had BAT grinds.
 
Thanks yoda! That should do it. Someone posted a picture of the penetrator tip a couple of weeks ago. Thought I saved it but can't seem to find right now. I still have the image in my head though. Between what you wrote, the picture on Bad Mojo and what's in my head I think I get it!

Stay Strong & No Regrets!
Brian
 
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