Full blooded Russian combat knives

[Seriousbladeno1]

Dear forumites

Recently I decide to make my first purchase of knives, designed predominantly for military and combat use of Russian armed forces.Manufacture name is KYZLIAR ...each of these knives are handmade and most of them are engraved with serial number and are of award winning fine quality.

However factory Kyzliar make most of its knives designed for military and armed forces, there is a good selection for civilian use, or military knives in civilian fit and finish.

I option for two particular knives, as for starters-

First knife is designed purely for one and only purpose and it is military dagger KO 1.This dagger is shorter version of larger dagger KO 2 and measures 295mm overall, 172 mm double edge with fuller, 4,9mm thick.Version I option for is equipped with handle made by stacked leather washers, have stainless pommel and double guard and blade with tang are made of Russian 65*13 steel.This dagger comes with Kydex sheath and when sheathed, it's very well and tightly fixed.

Second knife is multipurpose military knife named Kyzliar Legioner ,,, it's new and one of the latest designs made by Kyzliar manufacturer

Dimensions of Legioner are 278 mm overall length, 154 mm drop point blade,tang and blade are made out of Russian 65*13 steel with stainless steel double guard and pommel. Same as my first knife KO1, also Legioner knife is equipped with leather stacked washers handle,but both knives are available as most of others too in variety of handle materials - wooden, polymer, wood vs leather combination or only leather washers...
Knife Legioner is truly multipurpose, as it can be used well in slashing, chopping (blade heavy) , cutting and stabbing too, as it have double false edge,it would easy substitute for dagger.... This knife is however not suitable for batoning due to its false edge spine, it would be destroying every batton used.Sheath is made from thick leather, nicely stitched and knife is well fixed when sheathed.

First impressions

Straight after unboxing of my shipment parcel I was really surprised with both knives.Kyzliar manufacturer send clear message to its customers, that they are dead serious with quality, fit and finish of their products..knives and sheaths are made with precision, without imperfections, with the first touch it's clear these are very solid,robust knives of award winning quality...Blades are highly polished and both razor sharp out of the box - shaving hair from forearm easily.Logo Kyzliar is etched into blades so as serial number on KO1, Legioner is not serial numbered.When it comes to fit and finish of leather washer handles,these are fitted perfectly, it's even hard to notice, the handles are so smooth. Guards and pommels are very sturdy and tough.For the price tag just below 100 € a piece, you get full blooded military knives, that are hard to beat by any competitors on the market, taken into account these are no mass production knives, but each of them are carefully hand crafted and no two are the same.

Thanks

 

[sideways]

Kizlyar makes good stuff.

On the fancy side you have the Scorpion models which if memory serves were given as gifts to soldiers who fought in some of the nastier conflicts. I can't remember if they were issued at graduation or on return home.
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Then you have stuff that's more geared towards field work like the phoenix daggers and the DV-1/DV-2 which are essentially large camp knives.
[video=youtube;F2eZUQ_66PU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2eZUQ_66PU[/video]

Then there is a whole line of hunting style and smaller knives as well. I've had my eye on the VEPR Cleaver.

 

[silverds]

This tickles my Wantal Cortex.

 

[DPC]

Kizlyar and Kizlyar Supreme are very good, but check out Melita K.

Melita K knives are badass.

 

[Seriousbladeno1]

Hi Sideways

Meat cleaver (vepr) - which is in translation "pig" cleaver is carrying a lot of work by engraving, so as scorpion series of knives,very nice addition to these blades.

You mention Kyzliar DV 2, this particular knife was designed by Dagestan manufacturer directly for special operations group of Russian military units - Spetznaz. It was also developed and designed with close cooperation with Spetznaz directives.
Some of the army issue knives, that were available for sale were fitted with leather washers handle and sawback spine through Australian and American online sellers. this impressive combat knife doesn't come cheap, it's price is roughly arround 200€ +-20 € depend on sellers price tag.Each DV 1 or DV 2 comes serial numbered and are made in variation of fit and finish (walnut handle, leather washers handle, black coated blades or civilian version with chrome polished blades - even with engraved blades - these comes slightly more expensive)

 

[marcinek]

Thanks for the review. You conclude:

"For the price tag just below 100 € a piece, you get full blooded military knives, that are hard to beat by any competitors on the market, ..."

Just so I can put that into some context:

1) Have you actually used these knives, or have you just unboxed them and looked at them?
2) Have you owned and used any of the competitors on the market and what are they?

Again, if you can answer those it will help put your conclusions in context. :thumbup:

And where are the pictures?!?! Gotta have pictures!

 

[DPC]

Thanks for the review. You conclude:

"For the price tag just below 100 € a piece, you get full blooded military knives, that are hard to beat by any competitors on the market, ..."

Just so I can put that into some context:

1) Have you actually used these knives, or have you just unboxed them and looked at them?
2) Have you owned and used any of the competitors on the market and what are they?

Again, if you can answer those it will help put your conclusions in context. :thumbup:

And where are the pictures?!?! Gotta have pictures!

I have used them, they're pretty good.

They're comfortable and have good or great designs.Above average anyways. They're generic looking but they do the job. Very popular in russian military units.

I often say Kizlyar is the russian Cold Steel.

 

[Seriousbladeno1]

Kizlyar and Kizlyar Supreme are very good, but check out Melita K.

Melita K knives are badass.

Thanks, I checked also Melita knives - yes, they have quite unique and patented way of making knives, when it comes to metallurgy and they do have few designs I'd like - but talking Russian military combat knives - check A.R.Zlatoust too - these are kickass blades, having superb feedback from customers....All, Kyzliar, Supreme Kyzliar, Melita or AR Zlatoust seem to be really tough choice to make

 

[Seriousbladeno1]

Thanks for the review. You conclude:

"For the price tag just below 100 € a piece, you get full blooded military knives, that are hard to beat by any competitors on the market, ..."

Just so I can put that into some context:

1) Have you actually used these knives, or have you just unboxed them and looked at them?
2) Have you owned and used any of the competitors on the market and what are they?

Again, if you can answer those it will help put your conclusions in context. :thumbup:

And where are the pictures?!?! Gotta have pictures!

Well, I don't own any it's Russian competitors,but I have knives from Cold Steel, Kabar and Ontario (if these can be seen as Kyzliar competitors) and yes I used used them all- with Kyzliar is difference that it feel more natural, edge on Kyzliars is more fine - retain sharpness longer and it's fit and finish (on those I own) seem and feel definitely superior to me...The only thing I doesn't like on KO1 is that it comes to me with Kydex sheath, which I don't like, I prefer old classic leather materials on knive sheath.... however, kabars are rattling in their Kydex sheaths - Kyzliar don't and is well fixed even without retention strap.... However, I like all knives in my collection equally

 

[Seriousbladeno1]

I have used them, they're pretty good.

They're comfortable and have good or great designs.Above average anyways. They're generic looking but they do the job. Very popular in russian military units.

I often say Kizlyar is the russian Cold Steel.

I may only agree with you,,,, talking Kyzliar. these are really worth every penny and especially for military personnel, very solid, rigid knives and many with useful and very practical designs... Taking their prices into account mostly between 100-200 bucks which ain't cheap,but a lot of work on them is handcrafted, unlike many others

 

[onojoe]

Hi Seriousbladeno1, I have read a few of you posts. To me it seems like you ask a question or post a review and then in subsequent responses I get the feeling you are trying to sell the knife or brand to us. I don't know if this is on purpose or a cultural thing, or a language thing or maybe it is excitement about a new manufacturer. Maybe if told us a little bit about you in the post, it would help us understand where you are coming from. Pictures always help, it ads a level of commitment from the poster. I think we are leery of manufacturers or distributors posting anonymously in hopes of boosting sales. Maybe I am wrong, its late here, its just the feeling I got.

 

[Seriousbladeno1]

Hi Seriousbladeno1, I have read a few of you posts. To me it seems like you ask a question or post a review and then in subsequent responses I get the feeling you are trying to sell the knife or brand to us. I don't know if this is on purpose or a cultural thing, or a language thing or maybe it is excitement about a new manufacturer. Maybe if told us a little bit about you in the post, it would help us understand where you are coming from. Pictures always help, it ads a level of commitment from the poster. I think we are leery of manufacturers or distributors posting anonymously in hopes of boosting sales. Maybe I am wrong, its late here, its just the feeling I got.

Hi Onjoe

I am just an ordinary knifeloving "Joe" - no expert, no knifemaker, no knife-seller or anyhow involved in "trading" of any cutlery or brands.Since my young age I always loved knives - especially fixed blades, I use them occasionally on camping trips or in the woods during leisure time... My apology that I may sound as a seller, I can assure you that it's wrong impression about me.I can get very excited about some knives and thanks to this I may sound like a seller of these to you I have only small collection of knives counting maybe 20 -25 knives and very limited budget to spend on these...I do not buy knives at this stage,because I would need them for simple reason and that is I have enough from nearly every category for different purposes, some of them I used more, some less and some are entirely for collecting purpose never used.So when I am going to buy a knife, it's just for pleasure,rather than need and I take my time to do very good research from variety of sources about it, read a lot from reviews,manufacturers etc.so when I buy,, I get what I paid for....Also, sorry for my English, it's not my native language, but I am trying my best,for English speaking natives to understand my writing, I know my grammar is not perfect in any way.I had my eyes on Russian manufacturers for some time by now, as here on the western hemisphere these knives are yet not much distributed and advertised compared to typical western counterparts and I found Russian made knives that I ordered are really superb quality and I am happy and excited about them and can recommend them to those interested in military combat knives, (I served in military too) so for guys who are serving these days, manufacturers like Kyzliar or others from Russia could be very interesting, that's all....

Thank you for comment,I hope, this could somehow answer your questions

 

[NordMan76]

Hi all! I have several Kizlyar knives, and they are pretty good knives, at a price less than European and American ones.
I don’t understand how I can upload several photos here?

 

[maxjeg]

If you are talking about knives of the Russian army, then only two companies produce them. Melita K and KAMPO.
Kizlyar Supreme and PP Kizlyar both factories are in Kizlyar, these are commercial products. Soldiers and officers buy them privately. Sometimes they are bought as gifts to the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Emergency Situations. But they have never been in service with the army.
There are also two factories that produce bayonets for the Kalashnikov assault rifle. These are the Tula Arms Plant and the Izhevsk Mechanical Plant. But they are not available for free sale.

 

[NordMan76]

Now the main supplier of knives for the army is KAMPO. They make a bayonet for AK - 6X9. Their production is located in the Moscow region. And Melita-K produces its knives in Kazan (Tatarstan).

 

[maxjeg]

Now the main supplier of knives for the army is KAMPO. They make a bayonet for AK - 6X9. Their production is located in the Moscow region. And Melita-K produces its knives in Kazan (Tatarstan).

A bit incorrect. The 6x9 bayonet-knife was developed in 2011. It has been supplied to the army only since 2014. As part of the Ratnik infantry kit, together with a multi-tool from the SARO company. According to data for 2020, only 3.5 percent of the Russian army is armed with it.
Everyone else uses old models of bayonet-knife. From the factories that I mentioned earlier.

 

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