Full Tang Kukri

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I know kukris comes in various sizes and made of different types of steel but has there ever been a full tang kukri.

If there is, what type of material would suit it best?

Just thinking aloud.



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Actually, the Reiger Khukuri and the Panawal series are full tang. As for steel, all we use is spring steel (usually 5160) from truck springs. We've switched materials a couple of times on the pins that hold the slabs in place (copper, aluminum, steel).

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Hi there, Golok. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by a full tang khukuri. All of the Gurkha House khukuris you see pictured in Craig's catalog have a full tang. Let's see if this addresses your question.

There are 2 different kinds of ways they do it here. First, there is the spike tang, which is when the blade narrows to pass through the handle, and is peened over at the buttcap. It is very strong and comfortable to use because lots of the vibration is not transmitted to your hand. This is the most common method of construction and will stand up to heavy use, even though it may not look as sturdy as the second method.

The Panawal style tang is the complete width of the handle, but becomes thinner in the handle area. The handle is 2 scales that are pinned onto the tang, and the steel is visible on the edge and spine sides. This style of tang has the reputation of being able to take all abuse a body can dish out. But with this extra strength comes more vibration felt when chopping. The bigger the khukuri and the harder you chop hard wood, the more vibration will be passed onto your hand.

My little bunch of khukuris are all of the spike tang style, except one. This is a 25" AK. The blade is thick, so I wanted it to be in the Panawal style, in case I decided to abuse it...after all it is a 2 hander. What a joke! This thing can take all the energy I can possibly put into it, and much, much more. While splitting and cutting with the wood grain was fine, the shock felt when cutting across oak grain was punishing, causing me to change my grip and method of chopping.

I haven't heard any serious complaints of shock with the regular sized Panawals, but owners have said they do feel a difference in the handle styles. I hope some forumites that have both will speak up.

So, from an engineering point of view it makes sense to have a tang that is the full width AND blade thickness, but I doubt that it would serve any useful purpose. A thicker tang would leave less room for the scales, and the steel in the handle might not feel good in cold weather. Something I'm discovering the more I work with handles, is that every aspect of khukuri design is very well thought out, and the things I used to think would be improvements actually wouldn't help at all. Somewhat like violin design, it's about as good as it can be made.

I hope this helps, Golok. But enough from me. I'm more interested in what other forumites have to say on this subject, and I hope there are other more interesting ideas out there....Dan
 
Just as a side note, doesn't the title of this post seem like a great name for something? I keep thinking a Nepalese rock'n roll group.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
 
Rene: Yeah, I could envision a khukuri-oriented movie. "Full Tang Khukuri" certainly has the potential to best "Full metal Jacket" in by book. Perhaps Sly Stallone could be tutored to use a khukuri...I wonder which one he would like. Afghan? Cheetlang? 20" Sirupati?
 
Actually, this is a bit of an interesting thread. If one knows much about long blades (and I own a few repros), you know that they are made like Kukris are - that is, they have a spike tang, even on a 3' long battle sword. Tangs CAN fail on swords. I know of no sword that can be used to chop on a tree; the length of the blade and the inertia of beating a 3' long, thin piece of steel into solid wood is a bit much even for modern steels.

That said, even Medieval sword tang failures were rarely than the blade snapping in half from hitting a shield or plate armor a bit too often. Thus, there should be nothing wrong with the traditional tang unless a longish blade is continually used as an ax. Like the Kukri, axes are designed as they are for a reason - nothing else survives being beaten into hard wood very well.

If one intends on using a Kukri as an ax, a full tang is a good idea. But a better idea is to buy an ax to begin with
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What I find interesting is the question concerning the strength of the tang on a Khukuri. In all the time I've been a member of the two Khukuri forums, I haven't heard of any failure of Khukuris at this point. Blades cracking, bending, and failing at various times, and handles coming apart. But as far as tang failure, nada.

Does anyone have an instance that this was reported on the forums?

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Watakushi Wa Shinajin Desu
DeathDancer

Movement, transcends movement, transcends thought--Zazen Mantra
 
Actually, tang failure has been reported only once that I know of, but not on this forum. As you say, it's very unusual, and may not be a true reflection on the product.
 
Lt. Dan, thanks for the illuminating and informative reply.

Happy Easter.

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Make Love your strongest weapon. Compassion your shield and forgiveness your armour.
 
Golok: Glad to serve, and while not all of your questions got direct answers, I hope we all got to the root of it. If we can do more, please feel free to think out loud again. This stuff is fun to talk about!

Thanks and I hope you have a special Easter as well.
 
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