Fusion Quench 15

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I found this quenchant on amazon. It's by fusion chemical, called fusion quench 15. Basically it's a non flammable quenchant, that you mix in different ratios with water from (5 to 40%). Depending on the speed you want to cool the steel down.

I looked it up, and really didn't find a lot of information on it. I figured I would see if you guys had any experience with it, or have heard of this stuff.

I would post a link, but I'm not sure what the rules are about posting to amazon. I'm not necessarily interested in buying any. Just curious about this stuff.

 

[Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith]

Feel free to post a link.
Here is the product:

Fusion Quench 15 - Fusion

Fusion Quench 15 is a polymer based quenchant which will control the quench rate. This product has been used in applications in which oil or water based chemistries have been used to obtain specific metallurgical properties. Quench speed and results may be optimized by adjusting the...

www.fusion-chemical.com

Water-based polymer quenchants are discussed occasionally, but I don't know anyone who actually uses them.

If I bought Larrin a five-gallon bucket, I wonder if he would test it for us? I'll ask him about this product.

 

[DevinT]

Howard Clark uses water based polymers in his heat treatment.

Hoss

 

[Tony Mont]

I was toying with the idea of a polymer some time ago because I couldn't find a fast oil in Europe. When I contacted the company that made the polymer, it was not suitable for my needs due to the maintenance.

This was the reply from the company and they attached a pdf with the proper maintenance required.

Compared to quenching oils, polymer quenching agents are clearly more intense in their quenching effect. Depending on the type of polymer used, they are used for induction hardening and quenching and tempering of forged parts, with the advantage of being non-combustible and the possibility of hot-drawing the parts.

Is there a specific reason you want to use a polymer quenchant here?

In principle, the POLYQUENCH XL400-F1 is suitable because it has an oil-like quenching characteristic.

There are advantages and disadvantages to using a polymer quenchant.

Advantages over quenching oil are:

• no formation of oil vapor and soot during quenching
• adjustable quenching effect – about the concentration
• No oil burns on the surface at the hardening material

Disadvantage over quenching oil are:

• higher effort for control and care
• trend to higher risk for distorsion and chracks as at oil quenching
• Limited lifetime
• increased stickiness of the surface

If you want to, I can forward you the pdf files to get an idea of the process required to keep the polymers right.

 

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Feel free to post a link.
Here is the product:

Fusion Quench 15 - Fusion

Fusion Quench 15 is a polymer based quenchant which will control the quench rate. This product has been used in applications in which oil or water based chemistries have been used to obtain specific metallurgical properties. Quench speed and results may be optimized by adjusting the...

www.fusion-chemical.com

Water-based polymer quenchants are discussed occasionally, but I don't know anyone who actually uses them.

If I bought Larrin a five-gallon bucket, I wonder if he would test it for us? I'll ask him about this product.

I would love to see larrin test something like this. Or if he has already used these or seen these used, to hear his thoughts on them

 

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If you want to, I can forward you the pdf files to get an idea of the process required to keep the polymers right.

Sure I wouldn't mind reading what goes into the maintenance of using these. I would imagine moisture from the atmosphere could become a problem with this stuff if you aren't careful to keep the ratios correct.

 

[Tony Mont]

I've attached the three pdf files. Let me know if they work otherwise shoot me an email (email on my signature) and I will forward them there.
Keep in mind, these instructions are for the specific polymer (POLYQUENCH XL400). Not sure whether that's the case for all of them or not.

 

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I've attached the three pdf files. Let me know if they work otherwise shoot me an email (email on my signature) and I will forward them there.
Keep in mind, these instructions are for the specific polymer (POLYQUENCH XL400). Not sure whether that's the case for all of them or not.

They work.

I can see why in your case you chose not to use that particular quenchant. I wonder if the maintenance on the one I linked is any easier.

I would definitely be interested to find someone's experience with using these. I'm sure there are particular use cases where something like this would be worth the effort.